Dishonorable Discharge for Conduct Unbecoming?
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HawkeyeDJ — 9 years ago(September 09, 2016 08:54 PM)
That sentence doesnt make sense at all. You are soldiers, you should follow orders, you did follow orders, now gtfo out of our army.
You never served, did you?
In basic training every recruit is thoroughly trained on what an order is, when an order is legal, and when an order should be disobeyed.
The conflict comes in when one does not have the courage to challenge their superiors on the legality of an order. And the consequences for being wrong can be dire as pointed out in the film.
This is what is real: "I was just following orders!" is no defense for any soldier, marine, sailor or airman when they do something wrong - even if they were following orders.
In the film, they were given an illegal order to subject Santiago to a 'code red' a physical beating by his peers to get him to straighten up and be a better marine. They were not given an order to kill Santiago. That was a tragic accident.
And why were Code Reds prohibited? Because they can get out of hand and people can get hurt!
Dawson finally figures that out when he says "We were supposed to fight for Santiago!" -
lorddeseiz — 9 years ago(September 10, 2016 01:16 AM)
Well then, i stand corrected o7
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devildog1982z — 9 years ago(January 16, 2017 03:28 PM)
The conflict comes in when one does not have the courage to challenge their superiors on the legality of an order. And the consequences for being wrong can be dire as pointed out in the film.
This is what is real: "I was just following orders!" is no defense for any soldier, marine, sailor or airman when they do something wrong - even if they were following orders.
People forget that the "I was just following orders" defense was used by the Nazis at Nuremberg and that is where the military precedent was set. It didn't work then either. -
rikkirat — 9 years ago(September 13, 2016 12:54 PM)
"Its just in the movie so you can have that cheesey ending the movie has. "
Yeah I thought the same thing the spent the entire movie building and building the story line and then boom - oh we're out of time here's the end. -
devildog1982z — 9 years ago(January 16, 2017 03:20 PM)
The only part of the ending that I felt was "cheesey" was when Dawson stood up and saluted Lt. Kafee, it would NEVER have happened. Also let me point out the fact that they are not in the Army, they are in the Marine Corps and would be considered an insult in being referred to as soldiers.
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arkast — 9 years ago(October 30, 2016 04:35 AM)
Even though they were given order to conduct the Red Code, it is illegal and they should not follow the order. That's why they are given dishonorable discharge.
Orders for illegal acts are still punishable if you follow them.
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