This movie doesn't make any sense
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HawkeyeDJ — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 09:42 PM)
Yes, I did serve.
And I never served under anyone as arrogant or as stupid as Jessup.
In many ways Jessup was a caricature, but that is not to say that men like him do not exist in real life. From what I have read, Generals Patton and MacArthur were quite arrogant, not knowing their proper place or role in the world scene. Both of them were highly decorated Academy graduates, and both of them were cut down a few notches when they forgot.
MacArthur, who did not set foot on American soil in over 20 years, had his plane take off just as president Truman's plane was approaching to land, specifically to to make the commander-in-chief stand there waiting for him to 'arrive.' Eventually, MacArthur was relieved of his command by Truman, with the full support of the Joint Chiefs.
Yes, there are some stupid leaders in the military.
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mikeyg24 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 02:46 PM)
You're right in that he eventually blew a gasket but do you really think he would have let it get that far? When I watched this for the first time and Kaffee asked if Santiago's life wasn't in danger why did he have to be transferred I actually said out loud 'because he was a crap marine'. I've never served nor am I a lawyer and even I wasn't taken in by that question. I'm sure there are some stupid leaders in the military but Jesssop wasn't presented as one of them. Dramatic? yes! Realistic? Not in a million years!!
We have to show the world that not all of us are like him: Henning von Tresckow
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HawkeyeDJ — 9 years ago(January 26, 2017 06:25 PM)
why did he have to be transferred
I'm not sure you understand the point of that exchange.
Kaffee knew he had to get Jessup rattled. He had to get him to lose his cool. That was Kaffee's only hope.
Right before that Jessup had declared that his men
always
follow orders. He declared that Santiago was not to be touched. According to Jessup, the order to transfer was made as the CO had compassion and did not want Santiago to be hurt. But, since his men always followed orders, he could not have been in danger or in need to be transferred.
When Jessup painted himself into that corner, he knew that he looked the fool in front of the jury, all made up of fellow officers.
The fact that this little pipsqueak non-line sailor could have him appear before the court to account for himself was bad enough, but when he was contradicted in open court, that set his blood boiling. "I have more responsibility than you could possibly imagine!" How dare he question his manner of command!
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Doc80 — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 04:25 PM)
He didn't screw up though, that's the point. Kaffee brilliantly lets him paint himself into a corner. He says earlier that he was being transferred for his safety. So that is the established reason for the transfer. Jessup is the one who states it this way, not Kaffee. Then, a little bit later, Jessup says that his orders are always followed and that he order Santiago not be touched. So when Kaffee asks why he needed to be transferred for his safety he is contradicting himself.