I love it but some things bug me
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mikeyg24 — 11 years ago(April 03, 2015 01:28 PM)
I think the rest of your questions have been pretty well answered I just want to add something regarding Dawson testifying. It seems to me he was supposed to. A lot of people miss something Jo says When Kaffee comes home drunk
JO
or maybe we put Downey back on
the stand
before we get to Dawson
.
KAFFEE
Maybe if we work at it we can get
Dawson charged with the Kennedy
assassination.
This was discussed before and it was brought up why if the intention was to put them both on the stand was Downey put on first? My guess is that Downey's testimony was necessary as far as procedure was concerned but Dawson's testimony as the superior enlisted man was to be the substance of the entire defense.
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tub51461 — 10 years ago(April 06, 2015 09:15 PM)
Kevin Pollack was just a supporting actor. As he famously quoted for Lt. Weinberg's character, "I have no responsibilities here whatsoever." It might have been a line in a script but he delivered it beautifully to make it sound funny. It was even funnier when he introduced himself to Galloway like that. Weinberg was basically Kaffee's mentor and he acted like a mentor & a friend.
He wasn't afraid to say what was on his mind about the two marines and their code of ethics which he didn't agree with. That was convincing & truthful. No doubt he was right. They tortured & killed a weaker kid for what - just being a lousy runner - so what? He would hung them out to dry for that because what they did was unethical hazing & completely inhumane unnecessary violence. Could have been 1st degree murder in the right circumstances. For marines & men, they should have known better. There was no getting passed that part, whether someone gave an order on it or not. Military service is three parts: 1) honor to yourself & comrades; 2) honor to your superiors; 3) honor to your country. Dawson & Downey broke 1) while trying to keep 2) & therefore 3) is questionable when a comrade dies at your hands unless it's a situation where the only way to save the unit to kill a comrade who is endangering your platoon in actual combat (say by injury & screamming & giving away your position - you have no choice - that can be excusable then). The only thing that made the difference was the motive between Weinberg's conclusions & what really happened. Pollack sold that part in that moment.
He also taught Galloway a little about what she did too questioning the testimony of the doctor. He also demonstrated mentoring qualities with Kaffee and answering ethical & strategy questions that Kaffee had on some aspects of the case, most of it with Jessup and expressed his opinion that he wouldn't risk his career by going after Jessup without evidence nor would his father (since Weinberg studied Kaffee's father like a book when writing a dissertation about him) and Weinberg said, "neither your father or I are point men for defense. That is on you and what you think you is right. Can you outsmart a 25 year veteran with more rank & stars & accommodations than you? Doesn't matter what you can prove, only how you prove it." That's all Kaffee needed to know to set Jessup up and put his own head in the noose with some encouragement. -
jmim-1 — 10 years ago(June 11, 2015 12:44 AM)
Re: question 6. Seriously? It was rather a crucial blow to the defense why he was questioned. He maintained, along with Dawson, that they were both present in Dawson's quarters when Kendrick gave them the code red. Obviously he was not telling the truth, because he was running back to base from where the jeep had the flat at the time when he claimed to be with Dawson. That's why Caffey blew up at Galloway in his apartment, for not bringing up the matter before it came up in court. The prosecution knew Downey was not there, but Dawson was, so which one would you expect them to interrogate?
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movie_fan59 — 10 years ago(June 12, 2015 08:46 PM)
- We don't know that the NIS agent sent a copy of Santiago's letter to Colonel Jessup. But considering he was the convening authority for a Captain's Mast or Court-Martial, he'd have had to be brought into the loop at some point. Santiago's death didn't render the investigation moot, and that his letter would have been part of the murder investigation, which wasn't secret from Col Jessup, he'd have known anyway.
- I suspect the absence of any sexual harassment references in the movie would have a lot to do with the timing of when it began filming. Until the Tailhook scandal became news in mid/late September of 1991, harassment was just a dirty little secret in the military. There had been some fledgling attempts at sexual harassment awareness training in the military in the mid 1980s and then the topic dropped by the wayside. I remember sitting in those classes in 1984 and being bored to tears. Anyway, the point is, it wasn't the issue pre-Tailhook that it became afterward. It also wasn't an issue that would drive the story forward. Allowing Col Jessup to be right on the edge of harassment made his portrayal as a "typical" asshat CO more realistic.
Vader: I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Tarkin: Enough of this! Vader, release him!
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CTReviews — 10 years ago(July 05, 2015 08:03 AM)
The movie doesn't show all testimony. It picks up at the end of the direct testimony of Downey, then Ross' cross-examination. They certainly did damage control with follow up questions after Ross slam dunked him. Closing arguments weren't shown (they were still convicted of a lesser crime so obviously Ross didn't move to have the charges dismissed.) So it's reasonable to believe Dawson did testify.
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walkingf00l — 10 years ago(January 05, 2016 10:53 AM)
I love this movie, too, but I definitely consider it more of a guilty pleasure kind of a courtroom soap opera.
One big thing that always bothered me was: Why did Col. Jessup lie about the flight? Couldn't he easily have just said that they were planning on transferring Santiago in 48 hours? -
jgroub — 10 years ago(March 30, 2016 01:05 AM)
- Why wasn't Cuba Gooding jrs character questioned about codes red by Kaffee?
Because his response to the question would have been
"SHOW ME THE MONEY!"
I want the doctor to take your picture so I can look at you from inside as well.
- Why wasn't Cuba Gooding jrs character questioned about codes red by Kaffee?
