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    BrunswickGreen — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 12:15 AM)

    most of the film is quite clear, but the plane plot was always muddy. Fully explain it from the beginning to end.

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      law607 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 06:02 AM)

      It's been a while since I've seen this movie but
      Jessop claimed that Santiago was set to be transferred on the next available plane out at 0600 hrs the next morning. In reality, the next plane out was at 2300 hrs on the night of Santigo's death. Kaffee asked Jessop for that transfer order during their luncheon in Gitmo for which Jessop told Kaffee that he would give him the transfer order, but he would have to ask nicely.
      In the hotel room, Markinson informed Kaffee that Santiago was never going to leave that base and that Jessop had doctored the log books to show that the next plane out was 0600 hrs and not 2300 hrs.
      Kaffee said that Jessop may have been able to doctor the log books at Gitmo but he couldn't have doctored them at Andrews Air Force Base.
      On a bluff, Kaffee subpoenaed two Airmen from Andrews Air Force Base (O'Malley and Rodrigues) to make Jessop believe that they were working the ground crew on the night of Santigo's death and they would testify that a plane left Gitmo to Andrews at 2300 hrs and that flight would have been available to Santiago. This would have proven that the 0600 flight was not the first available flight out of Gitmo.
      Disclaimer
      I may have screwed up all the times and names.

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        Stevicus-2 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 08:59 AM)

        I wondered why they had to go to all the trouble of doctoring the log books and making a whole flight "disappear" from the record. They still could have acknowledged the existence of the flight and come up with some plausible reason why Santiago couldn't get on it and had to wait for the next flight.
        And wouldn't there be other evidence of a flight, other than the tower chief's logs? If it had to be fueled or serviced by a ground crew, wouldn't there be a record of that? Maybe the Airmen wouldn't have been able to remember anything, but wouldn't they also keep some sort of log or record if they're servicing the aircraft that land there? Wouldn't the pilot himself have to keep some sort of record or log?

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          law607 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 09:16 AM)

          I would say yes to all of your questions

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            HawkeyeDJ — 9 years ago(November 06, 2016 11:39 AM)

            The key was Jessup testified that Santiago was in 'grave danger' and had to be transferred without delay. Since there was an earlier flight, that flight had to disappear, otherwise the question arises "Why the delay?"
            Therefore, all evidence of that routine scheduled flight had to disappear.
            When Markinson points this out to Kaffee in the car, that gives Kaffe the seed he needs to get Jessup to blow his own game up. Of course, Kaffee doesn't realize it at that time, because he's expecting Markinson to testify and blow up Jessup's game.

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              paulmary-41926 — 9 years ago(December 12, 2016 03:44 PM)

              Love the movie but the whole "missing" flight is impossible. ALL military flights are required to file a flight plan AND (at the time of this story) get an official weather briefing from the Aerographer's Mates (Navy weather personnel) at GITMO prior to departing. The weather forecasts are recorded on a government form DD-175-1 and the pilot receiving the briefing would have their name and rank recorded on that form. The pilot takes their copy and the weather office retains their copy as an official record that is not tampered with. There are no such things as "missing" or "unknown" flights in and out of GITMO (once again, at the time of this story).

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