17 minutes in, nothing's happened and I'm bored to death
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A_Race_Car_in_the_Red — 10 years ago(October 21, 2015 07:12 AM)
Let me rephrase that for you so that you can understand. Why did people enjoy something so much where nothing happens in the first 17 minutes. Were they dozing off or at the toilet?
I'm already trying to explain a lot to you, don't make me have to explain humor.
That is an assumption and an exceedingly farcical way to defend beep
Nope, it's a generalization, and in most cases it actually rings true. Most films that move at an extremely fast pace are merely trying to subdue the short attention span of the audience. Whereas films that move at a slower pace, often use this to filter out Joe average moviegoer, and bring in a more fitting audience. Think of how ridiculous Citizen Kane would be if it moved at the pace of Transformers, and vice-versa.
All these references to Micheal Bay are just strawman arguments.
Michael Bay is an extreme example, but you seem to be looking for something with the fast pace and instant gratification of a half-assed action movie.
Take the first 17 minutes of any other film in the top 250 and compare.
Fight Club- The Narrator just talks about Ikea furniture, and goes to various support groups, meeting Marla. Stops going to support groups, talks about his job, travels for his job, and eventually meets Tyler Durden. I would have to re-watch it to be sure, but I don't remember much happening until The Narrator gets off the plane.
Reservoir Dogs- Table conversation (pointless, but fun), entire heist happens and is explained, Mr. Orange is shot and dying, Mr. White and Mr. Pink discover that one of them is a rat, we get Mr. White's backstory.
Finding a film with a more cluttered 17 minutes, isn't effective evidence of this film's failure, it is just an exhibition of how pace and plot setup is used differently by different artists.
Note: I think Fight Club is great, and the first 17 minutes are used very well to establish the main character's personality and the film's societal message.
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eeriebass — 10 years ago(October 27, 2015 07:16 AM)
This has to be a joke. 17 minutes into the film and you instantly have to jump on IMDb and tell everyone how stupid they are for liking it. You should make your own film! It should be 17 minutes long, I'll pitch some ideas to get you started. Open with an explosion, then have a guy covered with blood wielding a chainsaw run at the explosion and try and kill it: But OH NO! The explosion has a AK-47 and shoots the chainsaw man, who explodes from too many bullets. Then there is a bunch of boobs, fade to black.
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preachcaleb — 10 years ago(November 05, 2015 09:00 AM)
Maybe you shouldn't be on the internet 17 minutes into a movie.
don't tell me it gets good because to watch a film you have to watch the first 17 minutes and if a film has the audacity to bore you for 17 minutes then the director deserves a slap in the face.
Not at all. The movie doesn't "get good." The movie starts off good.
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thektroll — 10 years ago(November 26, 2015 08:15 PM)
Isn't the whole thing with Dogs how the opening credits stop and you are brought up close and personal with a guy who has been shot and dying a traumatic death?
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Iberian_Wolf — 10 years ago(November 30, 2015 06:35 AM)
lol what?
after the restaurant/waitress scene
Mr. Orange is already bleeding
on the whole friggin car.
let me guess, you only let the phone ring twice, after that you quite, right?
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slim_sanders — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 07:21 AM)
17 minutes in. For that you get, one of the greatest opening scenes in movie History. Fantastic, hilarious dialogue, character development, suddenly jumping to man with a gut shot, bleeding to death, we know the heist has happened and it has ended disastrously. We find out that it's likely there's a rat in the group, plus we get some great tunes. What are you after exactly? Just out of interest what are your ideas of good movies?
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speculator-1 — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 03:58 AM)
The 17 minute mark is when White and Pink go into the bathroom for exposition. 3 minutes after that, Pink's foot-chase flashback happens.
The first 21 minutes of a mainstream movie is the First Act, it is the setup for the main storyline.
If this were a James Bond movie, Bond would be in M's Office getting a briefing about who Joe Cabot and Nice Guy Eddie were, and what the plan was to infiltrate the gang. Tarantino put that scene later in the movie as a flashback.
Basically, Tarantino gave us character development, and lets you work out the details for yourself. The only exposition in the First Act comes from Pink wsaying that there's a goddamn rat. If this had been structured as a mainstream film, it would have the same scenes but it would be a lot more boring.
Would it have been better if the robbery had been shown?
This would also have to be balanced by an even bigger gun-battle at the end, the same way "Saving Private Ryan" needed a massive climax to balance Omaha beach.
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