Anyone else not amused by foul mouthed old coots?
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doggie_rodriguez — 10 years ago(August 29, 2015 11:55 AM)
The screenplay and character development was on a level that an intelligent Middle-Schooler would have found trite. How many times can one hear the words "putz" and "schmuck" within a single narrative?
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Howlin Wolf — 14 years ago(August 17, 2011 10:37 AM)
and who says that if you're old, you have to be 'wise'?! You get to be old by
not dying
, not because you're the font of all knowledge.
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donny-31 — 19 years ago(May 21, 2006 06:47 PM)
You have rather strange ideas about how older people are "supposed to" act. If you've never met guys like this, I must say you don't get out much. Old coots and geezers are just people. Take us off your pedestal. We're just like everybody else. An old guy like me would say that your are a little too tight-assed. Real life is not Ozzie & Harriet or Sunday School.
Does it upset you that your parents and grandparents still have sex and still want to? Or was it just the earthy talk? You are living a makebelieve life, if that is so. I am just the same guy as I was when I was 19, except everything worked better, then.
My advice to you is to lighten up. You seem like basically a nice person, but self-righteousness in younger people is the very most tiresome thing to us old folks.http://www.opinionsoup.com/
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roghache — 19 years ago(May 21, 2006 08:02 PM)
I just turned 55 myself so am not all that young! My own father was 51 when I was born, not exactly a spring chicken. I'm quite well acquainted with real life, am not trying to sound self righteous, and don't put people of ANY age on pedestals, but I don't happen to find dirty talk entertaining. Period. For those who enjoyed this movie, that's fine. Personally, I didn't and my husband didn't enjoy it any more than I did.
Some will think I need to lighten up, but my complaint really is that this language is considered so acceptable in today's society generally. I didn't intend it as specifically a criticism of older people and do apologize for my insulting poor choice of words ("old coots"). Sorry if I offended any seniors, I'm getting to be almost considered one myself! -
donny-31 — 19 years ago(May 21, 2006 09:07 PM)
No offense taken. Maybe those guys were talking to each other and wouldn't have used such language if others had been present. I found their vulgarity rather old-fashioned and would never compare it with the odiousness of today's pop culture.
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lorene-lavora — 19 years ago(May 23, 2006 08:01 AM)
That is the irony, that the vulgarity IS old-fashioned. This is the way I remember many working class old geezers speaking to one another. It was the pre political correctness. Remember, this was the way of expressing affection between men for a very long time and still is for many. Two things I'd offer to think about First, it's not the words so much as the emotion intended. The language used in a lot of film today is not only worse, but there is meaness and violence behind it. That's not the case in this film. Also - someone mentioned the pedestal Not everyone reaches old age having attained enlightenment. And wasn't that really the point here? These guys still had lots to learn. Isn't it good to know that there's always something to look forward to?
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roghache — 19 years ago(May 23, 2006 08:33 PM)
I agree that these gent's language with each other is all meant affectionately. I just don't like bad language. However, I do agree that this language with their emotions is indeed much better than in modern movies with even worse language, and often used in conjunction with hatefulness and violence.
Yes, these men do still have a few things to learn, but I suppose it could also be saidso do we all. -
WarpedRecord — 19 years ago(August 08, 2006 10:09 PM)
mp390a15, what is your problem with roghache's post? Roghache is 55 and says his/her father was 51 when he/she was born. How does this mean roghache's father was 4 at the point of conception?
You say roghache should read his/her posts, but you make six spelling errors in yours. Can you find them? Can you correct them? Can you stop flaming people who want to express an opinion you don't share? -
Montigue44 — 18 years ago(May 10, 2007 12:48 AM)
Whoever posted the first comment must have no sense of humorwhether it's 'tasteful' or not, it's still funny. You think you are gonna care what ppl think when you are older??? HELL NO! Hopefully my generation will be wise enough to realize it doesn't matter what's 'classy' and what's not. I'll be making scenes all the time and then using the 'I'm old' excuse when I get caught in the act of doing something bad.
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rdsla — 19 years ago(August 22, 2006 08:11 PM)
Roghache,
You make a very good point with your opinion in this thread.
Good writers can make extremely funny and entertaining movies without the constant foul language. A funny movie that focuses on real humor in real life will have you rolling. The movies that display a constant stream of f.. this, f.. that, are just downright boring. I am a guy in my 50s, not a prude, nothing wrong with an expletive or two as a natural part of real life, but when overdone it shows a dearth of imagination on the writer's part. -
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laozii — 19 years ago(November 12, 2006 11:06 AM)
old men act like that
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Langer5757 — 19 years ago(December 01, 2006 07:46 AM)
I think you need to develop a better sense of humor, both movies are hysterical and all three characters (lemmon,matthau,meredith)are unforgettable. I hope when I am that old I will have the same youthfullness and humor that these grumpy old men have.
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jaynasara — 19 years ago(December 06, 2006 06:45 PM)
Finding excessive foul language distasteful has NOTHING to do with someone's sense of humor. Just because she finds the movies less funny due to their reliance on potty talk and sex jokes does not mean that she needs to develop a better sense of humor, it means that her sense of humor differs from yours.
I also do not care for a lot of swearing or sex in movies. Too many modern movies rely on that for their sole source of humor, and to me it is anything but funny.
Personally, I thoroughly enjoy these movies. To me, the use of foul language in these movies is not excessive, and it neither dectracts from nor adds to my enjoyment of them. I like the storyline: discovering some of the history of these two men, the competitions between them (both for fish and for women, past & present), the joys and sorrows in their lives. Burgess Meredith's character cracks me up the most - likely because he reminds me of my own grandfather. -
vice69 — 19 years ago(December 17, 2006 11:36 AM)
Agreedi'm 19 and I loved these films, and you're right, they do not use TOO much foul language. It's used rather sparingly. I cringe at all the films that use it to the extreme, because no one swears THAT much. When the trivia secion says "f-word used 463 times." it starts to take away from the film. In Grumpier Old Men, I was on the floor with Burg Merediths cracks about "wanna-peek-a-peepee" and "show you my cannelonni"that stuff was down right stomach renchingly funnyI fell on floor laughing so hard. One reason I watch all the old movies from the 40's and 50's is because they weren't allowed to be as vulgar and distasteful as some of these new ones. Anyway, just my two senselove these two films though, and Odd Coupleclassic
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