John Malkovich Vs. Tommy Lee Jones
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padjbyrne-1 — 16 years ago(July 24, 2009 01:04 AM)
What about Ralph Fiennes not winning fo schindles list. The biggest oscar snub ever would be Denzel washington winning for training day instead of Russel crowe for a beautiful mind. And the biggest best picture snup would be Shakespere in love beating Saving Private Ryan.
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Austerlust — 16 years ago(July 25, 2009 06:19 AM)
Can`t say I disagree with you that Crowe should have won instead of Denzel, but to be fair I think Denzel played better then Lee and that Finnes was better then Crowe to compare who they were up against.
And I also think Crowe 'lost' his award because of some controversy of some sort.
And as for Shakespeare in Love vs Private Ryan, I have not seen the SIL but if Private Ryan would have ever won a best picture award it would indicate for me that its competitors would not be much. It is a good movie but for me because of the cinematography, the story and acting is nothing special. -
perfect909 — 16 years ago(October 20, 2009 07:37 AM)
I know I'm getting into his conversation rather late, that it started - what, 3 years ago? But there is a point here that I think needs to be made.
Not only are the Oscars a joke and a rip off, but their purpose is not even to reward good films, filmmaking and acting.
The purpose of the Oscars is to recreate, year after year, high school elections for class officers, homecoming queen, student council and the rest.
The Oscars work exactly the same as those elections, with the popular kids winning most of the time. The choices are usually pretty obvious. So-and-So has the highest grade point average, is on the basketball team - not a star, but on the team, which shows he's not just a brain - and he runs the fall charity fundraising event. He's gonna be class president - who else? Never mind that What's-His Name is a political genius who could really DO SOMETHING as class president. He'll be overlooked.
There will be an occasional upset by a not-quite-so-popular-but- currently-in-favor kid winning sometimes, some offices given to a token kid because everyone's conscience is bothering them a little, and every now and then an election goes to someone surprising and nobody can figure out quite how it happened.
And just like class elections, where most students don't care but they have to take some part, have some opinion, the Oscars don't really matter, but if you love movies, you have to pay some attention, have some opinion about them, and be outraged time after time about the whole process.
Just my humble opinion, of course. Others may disagree.
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Gus-69 — 16 years ago(November 21, 2009 06:13 AM)
Neither.
Ralph Fiennes. Period.
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everydayboredom1980 — 16 years ago(January 24, 2010 02:57 AM)
Malkovich's performance was better.
His character was an underrated villain. Not often enough on those "best villain" lists, not even in the AFI's greatest 50 villains.
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crloskot — 16 years ago(February 17, 2010 02:28 PM)
I have watched both movies on DVD several times now since their releases. "The Fugitive" really is about Sam Gerard's pursuit of Richard Kimble; Gerard is the focal point of the film and drives the plot, which means that Tommy Lee Jones should have been nominated for Best Actor, rather than Best Supporting Actor. Of course, Columbia and Castle Rock had a pretty good feeling that Tom Hanks would win for "Philadelphia," leaving Tommy Lee on the outside looking in. There is no question that Jones is superb as Gerard. But, good as he is, I think Malkovich was better. His grasp of the Leary character and the range that he demonstrates are elements in the film that I do not believe could have been surpassed by any other actor. But the Academy's politics and sentimentality have been messing up the Awards for 80 years now, and the award to Jones over Malkovich, while not a travesty like the award to Taylor over Deborah Kerr in 1960, was just plain wrong.
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SofaOnWheels — 15 years ago(August 17, 2010 06:46 PM)
Ok I realize it's been 4 years since the original post, but are you serious?! John Malkovich should have won over Jones? Are people forgetting Ralph Finnes was nominated that year for Schindler's List, arguably one of the most ruthless and evil roles ever seen on film?!
To say Malkovich deserved to win over Finnes is blasphemy. -
SofaOnWheels — 15 years ago(August 17, 2010 06:47 PM)
Ok I realize it's been 4 years since the original post, but are you serious?! John Malkovich should have won over Jones? Are people forgetting Ralph Finnes was nominated that year for Schindler's List, arguably one of the most ruthless and evil roles ever seen on film?!
To say Malkovich deserved to win over Finnes is blasphemy. -
danmankp37 — 15 years ago(March 19, 2011 02:23 PM)
Jones winning the award for the Fugitive over the thrilling performance John gave for in the line of fire was an embarassment to the awards. The Fugitive was a good film but there is nothing spectacular about that performance or unique. The movie is your basic cops and bad guys chase movie. Only it is better made than most of that genre. Jones played a role that has been done many many times. The stern cop who is determined to track down the bad guy. Just in this case the bad guy is not really the bad guy. But John's performance was layered with depth, emotions and drama. The former government agent betrayed by his country now determined to make them pay by killing the president.
John was flat out robbed.. -
GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 14 years ago(January 21, 2012 07:17 PM)
The only reason Tommy Lee Jones won was because they felt stupid about not giving the oscar to him for JFK. Instead they gave it to Jack Palence in City Slickers which I doubt is the favorite movie of any of Jack Palence's fans. The oscars are a joke. This, Al Pacino not winning for any of the Godfather movies, Morgan Freemen not winning for Driving Miss Daisy or Shawshank, and Sean Connery winning for the untouchables over Denzil Washington in Cry Freedom are some of the many stupid decisions by the academy.
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kylektm1998 — 13 years ago(August 27, 2012 07:17 PM)
In the Line of Fire is one of my favorite movies. If it weren't for John Malkovich's haunting performance it probably would go from a solid nine to a mediocre 6. Tommy Lee Jones on the other hand wasn't bad either. However, I see where you are going with his performance being two dimensional. If I had to pick between the two of them I would probably pick Malkovich. But, if I was picking out of all five nominees I would pick Ralph Fiennes in Schindler's List. I think Tommy Lee Jones is a good actor but his performance was the least good compared to the other four. Hopefully Malkovich will one day receive the Oscar he deserves.
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everydayboredom1980 — 13 years ago(March 10, 2013 12:48 PM)
Jones got it because the Academy thought it was "his time" and for his overall body of work, I guess. He was good but in no way Oscar-worthy. Malkovich had a better performance.
It happens a lot, it's kind of annoying.
Ralph Fiennes (Schindler's List)
Sean Penn (Carlito's Way)
Denzel Washington (Philadelphia)
All gave better performances than Jones. I haven't seen What's Eating Gilbert Grape, but people have said that Leo DiCaprio also gave a better performance. -
GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 12 years ago(June 25, 2013 08:40 PM)
"It happens a lot, it's kind of annoying.
Ralph Fiennes (Schindler's List)
Sean Penn (Carlito's Way)
Denzel Washington (Philadelphia)"
Not to mention Denzel Washington losing for Cry Freedom to Sean Connery in the Untouchables. Or a few years before 1993 when Jack Palence won an oscar for City Slickers over Ben Kingsley in Bugsy and Tommy Lee Jones in JFK.
"You want me to roll 6,000 of these!? What? Should I quit my job!?" George Seinfeld