Irish are the only 'colored' White people?
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allen-butler — 19 years ago(October 23, 2006 10:23 AM)
Thanks, Louth Chick. I spoke with my friend last night and he's gonna go. He is going to try and keep a low profile as much as possible. He has family to help him get along so I'm happy for him. I honestly believe that it will be great for him to experience. I can't say as I personally have ever had any desire to go to England, but then again I have not had any reason either. However, politics aside, I think that for my mate to go and see the everyday people, will be enriching for him and hopefully give him more perspectives as to his beliefs.
Thank you again
Cheers
AL
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allen-butler — 19 years ago(October 26, 2006 09:18 AM)
Sooo HotRodder, you would'nt be someone I used to talk with from England now would You? Your style looks the same is all. If you are not please dont take offence, I just used to have some lively debates with her on the Barley board a while back and she wrote much like you do.
Cheers
AL
" Whack Fol da Diddle " -
james-1959 — 19 years ago(November 10, 2006 12:54 PM)
If you're talking about a race of people being butchered and colonised, then I would say that you are definitely and completely wrong in your statement. In fact, if you checked your history you would see that the English themselves were twice invaded, conquered, slaughtered and ruled by both the Romans, and the Normans.
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jkinsella — 19 years ago(January 17, 2007 04:35 PM)
Now I know you really are full of crap, MouthChick. Trying to portray yourself as if you would honour the Her Majesty and Her Subjects so gallantly and respectfully despite what you clearly think of your cousins (thats right) and everything they stand for. Yes, the national anthem is played in pubs all the time in Britain - and everyone dutifully rises to their feet..in cloud cuckoo land, that is. You must be confusing the real Britain with some stereotypical Hollywood movie complete with the obligatory quaint vicar, lovable idiot (i.e. Huge Grant), stick-wielding bobbies on the beat atop old black bicycles, and red telephone boxes. And of course, a handsome/pretty American who strides in to change everyones lives for the better..
I could not think of anything less likely to happen in a mainland-British public place these days than rising en masse for a rousing rendition of God Save The Queen, including in a public house, apart from during state functions and official occasions such as Remembrance Sunday, when we celebrate Britain and (most) of Her Commonwealth standing up against mass-tyranny and racism while - during two world wars at least - the Irish leadership/government couldnt care less (copyright Bono; Im paraphrasing of course - did you like that?). (Parenthetically, I seem to recall learning about how certain Irish leaders welcomed Nazi representatives to Dublin and offered some assistance to defeat the British and subsequently let Nazi agents operate from Irish soil, which must have heartened good old Joe Kennedybut I digress.) It is not a lack of national pride per se that precludes British flag-waving at leisure (apart from our small white-supremacist element), more that the British find flag-waving such an unusual and non-British thing to do - again, unless the occasion demands it. They are probably alone in that in the entire world, and it demonstrates a complete comfort with who and what they are: no complexes or national neuroses here. No need for jingoism or macho assertion. Indeed, the almost complete lack of this attitude is the subject of an ongoing public debate in relation to increasing Scottish and Welsh nationalism and a growing interest in national symbols in parts of their communities. If you knew anything at all about Britain you would know this of the place today. But clearly you do not: try watching the BBC.
Whenever I meet someone from non-British shores resident in the UK I always ask them what they think of the place out of pure personal interest. I get one answer above all: tolerance. MouthChick makes the place sound like it is dangerous to have views which do not accord with the locals. The best thing to do is not to talk about politics or those negative feelings elsewhere!!!. So, MouthChick, you are either lying or you have never stepped foot in the place. Oh, and by the way, you said "negative" views. Freudian slip? -
jkinsella — 19 years ago(January 17, 2007 04:47 PM)
allen-butler, do not criticise my spelling of a place name when your only argument (sic) is one of choice of recognised usage and when you seem incapable of spelling even basic English words. Makes you look like an ignorant, unreconstructed tw*t. Especially when you write in your attack peculular ( spelling ) decision. (sic).
Thats peculiar, allen: bad spelling decision there. Learn how to spell you idiot.
By the way, nobody in Britain will give a damn about the political viewpoints of your friend. If you ever come here you might find that out yourself. Even while IRA bombs went off in London, Manchester et al you never heard of British people attacking, avoiding or ostracising Irish people - even the nationalist/republican Irish. But you lot think of me as a "traitor" because I choose to call myself British and I do not wish to be associated with the incurable Irish disease: i.e. victim-hood over centuries-old events yet a refusal to accept acts in your cause today.
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allen-butler — 19 years ago(January 18, 2007 08:39 AM)
JKINSELLA, I can see that the last two months have been spent working out your own "Peculiar" argument. Thank you so much for pointing out my spelling error, as I do at times type too quickly, and don't spell check all of my work.
You are right in your assesment of my post by calling it an attack, but I ask you " What did you really expect as response to your inflamatory statements? "
Makes you look like an ignorant, unreconstructed tw*t.
I daresay this statement of yours casts you not in the most flattering light either. Might I say that if my spelling makes me look this way, then your entire argument, and attitude, makes you look much worse.
Lastly, and really this is the last for I've not the patience to deal with the likes of you, I never once called you a traitor. If you read back a bit you will see that. If you had taken a calmer position, and had not used inflamatory and vile statements, I might have been more inclined to "discuss" your views. ( note I use the word discuss not argue). As you did not do so, and from your most recent posts I can see you are not inclined to do in the future, I have but no choice but to call it as I see it.
You are but an angry Troll nothing more.
You know, there are many decaffinated brands out there that taste just like the real thing
Cheers
AL
" Whack Fol da Diddle " -
jkinsella — 19 years ago(January 17, 2007 05:31 PM)
- I do not live in Ireland. Even the island. I was born there though. The island that is. Not Ireland. Northern Ireland. Left for London and no nationalism.
- My mother is British, not from the Republic (can't you read, woman?). British blood runs through my veins.
- My paternal grandparents were born in Ireland under British rule and were pro-Britain and anti-independence. They fought for Britain.
- My father is also pro-British, served in the British Army and chooses to live in the UK.
- So what do you tell me I am again, MouthChick?
- Only racists and sneering nationalists dictate someone else's nationality and ethnicity to them, based on age-old prejudices and assumed information, and attack the other person when they point out who and what they really are and consider themselves to be. You demonstrate exactly what I left behind and do not want to be associated with.
See you again in a month or two