Ah Troll
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albertflasher — 17 years ago(April 10, 2008 01:14 PM)
Oh give me a break. Comparing the white Irish to black Americans is ridiculous, especially in light of the fact that Irish are known to be INCREDIBLY RACIST towards black people. During the Civil War, the Archbishop of New York, Irishman John Hughes, was very pro-slavery. And don't forget the horrible Draft Riots, in which mobs of Irish scum TORTURED, CASTRATED and LYNCHED black men, and also killed women and children. A "colored orphanage" was burnt and were it not for the kindness of passersby, scores of children would have been killed. After the war, "Tammany Hall," the name for the New York political organization controlled by largely Irish politicians, was known for their animus toward black people. Flash forward to the seventies, and there's the race riots in "Southie" (South Boston) in the 1970's over busing that made headlines all over the world. The list goes on and on.
I'm a person of color and I wouldn't visit Ireland if you paid me, because from what I understand dark-skinned immigrants to Ireland (especially Northern Ireland) face a very hard time, too. Now why am I not surprised? -
Sheriff_Of_Nottingham — 15 years ago(July 05, 2010 09:02 PM)
The reason the English conquered the Irish during the medieval period was because the Irish were raiding England's western coast and butchering English subjects. And there were famines in Ireland long before the British.
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Krauser-san — 15 years ago(August 07, 2010 10:04 AM)
^lol, did you read that on the back of a John Bull cereal box?
It took Britain centuries to fully conquer Ireland. The Gaels were long past raiding English coasts when Cromwell came over to reconquer the lands form Irish Confederates and killed nearly have the civilian population. -
EibhlinnSavage — 15 years ago(December 21, 2010 02:50 AM)
Anyone who has done Postcolonial Studies in Ireland knows that the Irish are considered to be the only occidental postcolonial country. It's a little bit more complicated and subtle than simply being the blacks of Europe. But yeah, you've got the gist of it. The Irish were colonized, enslaved, murdered and treated as an inferior race by the British. The marks on the culture and the national psyche are very similar to that of other countries that have been colonized. One notable difference though is that the Irish have thrived as a country (at least in the South, Northern Ireland is a whole other story) since then, whereas most other postcolonial nations are still struggling with the aftermath of colonialism.
Eibhlinn Savage
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intofilm — 11 years ago(April 09, 2014 03:17 PM)
That comes up in the movie "The Commitments" too, although it's done in a humorous way.
Jimmy Rabbitte: Do you not get it, lads? The Irish are the blacks of Europe. And Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland. And the Northside Dubliners are the blacks of Dublin. So say it once, say it loud: I'm black and I'm proud.
