Ilena's Pregnancy
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PurpleLemonadeDinosaur — 13 years ago(May 25, 2012 11:53 AM)
I do kind of find her pregnancy iffy. What would be the point of getting Cain killed? How would she explained that to her child? "Oh, your father was killed by some guys I knew because he wouldn't claim you as a child." It would be very unsettling, so I don't think she had any intentions of getting him killed. She could have been lying, but they didn't give us enough reason as to why she would.
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fiatlux-1 — 12 years ago(April 09, 2013 12:54 AM)
I agree it never even occured to me that she was lying about being pregnant. Even if he wore a condom they aren't 100% effective.
I agree. Especially if they fooled around before he put the condom on.
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RobSac — 12 years ago(April 15, 2013 12:21 AM)
The fact that she goes right to her gangster cousin for retaliation shows her level of class. Those bullets killed a guy who wasn't even in a gang, and who dedicated his life to getting Caine's crew to stop banging, and they also came within an inch of killing a small child. That girl was trash.
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everydayboredom1980 — 12 years ago(June 21, 2013 09:30 AM)
Interesting.
I never thought she was lying. The way they filmed the scene, she looks worried and down. She's in a robe, she doesn't have any lights on which adds to the "sad" effect of the scene.
I mean I guess they didn't want to make it over-the-top, like say the movie Friday when Cube's girl is accusing him of cheating when she's the one in bed with a guy next to her..but it seemed like the way the filmed the scene where Ilena calls Caine, that she's telling the truth. -
its_heather_ok — 12 years ago(July 10, 2013 06:17 PM)
It seems as if most people missed the scene where Sharif told Caine he hoped he wore a condom because he knew several dudes that had been with Ilena. Yet Ilena told Caine that he was the only one she had been with. I think that was supposed to show that she was a liar.
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ladyjay0786 — 12 years ago(July 31, 2013 08:36 PM)
It seems as if most people missed the scene where Sharif told Caine he hoped he wore a condom because he knew several dudes that had been with Ilena. Yet Ilena told Caine that he was the only one she had been with. I think that was supposed to show that she was a liar.
I actually must have missed that scene. Well then it all makes sense now that she was lying. I mean I always thought like someone else mentioned that her pregnancy was iffy. I never thought she wasn't pregnant. I just thought if she was, it wasn't Caine's and that she was just pinning it on him for some odd reason. -
Milkdoesabodygood — 12 years ago(August 02, 2013 01:01 PM)
Makes sense now, that's why he didn't go for it, hum.
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Frankc_ca — 12 years ago(August 10, 2013 06:36 PM)
I remember that scene, but he doesn't name her nor does he specifically point out that she might claim pregnancy to cheat him out of money.
Sharif does say something like, "I know a few brothers who have been caught out like that". That could mean anything. I always assumed it meant an unwanted pregnancy.
The way the movie was shot it more makes it look like he knocked her up and is leaving town like so many lousy men before him. If they spent another minute or two elaborating on that or even have her say something that catches her out in a more obvious way then it would have made her a liar than it would have played better. -
Str8 up Menace — 2 years ago(November 12, 2023 07:14 AM)
Sharif actually says I hope u used a rubber because I know a few brothers that eased up into that…specifically saying she was a hoe. I think the scene where she went to talk her "cousin" out of doing something reckless and trying to give him a weird ass hug was meant to show shorty was on some other **** as well, but I could be reading too much into the 2nd part.
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fiatlux-1 — 11 years ago(June 11, 2014 07:27 PM)
Caine may have used a condom, but I bet he & Illena messed around before he put it on.
That happens with a lot of 'accidental pregnancies'.
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Kelea7 — 11 years ago(September 28, 2014 09:03 PM)
i believed she was pregnant but i never believed it was caine's. shareef said she slept around for one, & for two caine said he always used condoms
Guys say that a lot though.
And just because she slept around doesn't mean she didn't genuinely think it was Caine's. As in he's the last guy she was with. It's how I saw it.
That being said I don't think it was made explicitly clear that she was lying. She was very convincing and her reaction didn't scream, "she's a liar!" I thought it made Caine look insensitive. Personally, I felt that down the line he could have had a change of heart about the child, but to many people it looks like he's bailing on his potential responsibility. I think they should have done something more definitive to show she was lying (like showing a false pregnancy test), or even better just come up with a different motive. It was weak the way it played out, but the film still works because of the powerful imagery of the ending.
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