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    Karl Aksel — 4 years ago(December 20, 2021 12:09 PM)

    Someone who is read and know what he's talking about.
    Says who? To me he's just a guy on the internet.
    I dont know the reporters in the news neither, I dont know the politicians, doctors, officers, and people around me. I guess I shouldnt quote, source anyone since I dont know who they are.
    How do you figure that's remotely comparable? All those positions - with the notable exception of politicians - require qualifications.
    Do you work for Wikipedia? or do you use it to turn in school material.
    No one
    works for
    Wikipedia. It is entirely voluntary, and not even the admins make a dime.
    Whatever the cause I'm sure your work is of manument proportions.
    You think I'm as young as you? I'm old enough to spell "monumental", I can tell you that much. I'm also old enough to know what an encyclopedia is meant for, and what it is
    not
    meant for.
    If you actually read a book about Wyatt instead of going by artistic media interpretations you would see how comical the vast differences are. IF!
    So you say. You could be right for all I know, but then I
    don't
    know, do I? Which is precisely why you need to
    demonstrate
    why anyone should listen to you. So far you have only demonstrated that you do not know the value of source criticism. I even suspect you were entirely unfamiliar with the term until I brought it to your attention. This means one would have to be a fool to take your word for anything.
    When you counter and ask stupid questions like an idiot!
    Asking someone to source their claims is idiotic, now?
    Than you must have some basis for feeling on the contrary otherwise your a complete idiot! So what are your basis coming from??!
    Your grammar is falling apart here, but I
    assume
    you are asking "why would you question what I say unless you believe I'm wrong"? Well, I'll explain it to you:
    You are the one to create a thread here lambasting this movie, calling it "a load of crap" and being all indignant about it. You offer no arguments. Naturally one is given to wonder why you say these things. Eventually you do post a link, which you tell people to read carefully. I didn't have to read it carefully, however, to tell right away that there is no reason to read it very carefully: it cites no sources. And based on your disturbing attitude towards source criticism, I am guessing that you found an article you liked, because you felt you learned something - and now you're treating it like gospel. If anything contradicts that article, then those
    other
    sources must be wrong - the article can never be wrong. Is that about right? I was like that myself when I was in my teens, I guess. You'll wise up in time, too.

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      Joc Spader — 4 years ago(May 16, 2021 04:06 PM)

      My only complaint was Kurt Russel standing almost even height to a 6'2 Sam Elliot when they greeted each other at the train station. Kurt can't be no more than 5'8ish
      Tell you what…When I send my ex-wife her money…you can lick the stamps.

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        TheAdlerian — 4 years ago(May 17, 2021 01:45 PM)

        Are you mad that the guy who plays Thanos isn't giant, muscular, and purple?

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          Joc Spader — 4 years ago(May 17, 2021 03:32 PM)

          ?
          Tell you what…When I send my ex-wife her money…you can lick the stamps.

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            TheAdlerian — 4 years ago(May 17, 2021 01:46 PM)

            I remember seeing the movie in the theater and these lines from Kilmer were cracking people up. Everyone loved it.

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              bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(May 17, 2021 07:05 PM)

              Never thought of it as a joke.
              Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
              Without strife, you do not advance.
              Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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                TheAdlerian — 4 years ago(May 17, 2021 07:22 PM)

                The character is a bitter smart person and he likes to say wacky things in a passive-aggressive manner.
                When he says he hates Ringo for knowing Latin, you can see it there.

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                  bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(May 21, 2021 11:34 PM)

                  When he says the above Banner, you know it was about to be a duel and not only that it was a twist of shock because he was lying one sec. but then surprised and came to duel even ahead of Wyatt.
                  Also his passive- aggressive manner is also violent and aggressive. There are many example of this previously in the film.
                  Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
                  Without strife, you do not advance.
                  Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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                    JewFro — 4 years ago(May 17, 2021 07:35 PM)

                    NO,Nimda has to face his main pimp,deliciousfeet, before making any decision.
                    Lara Croft September 6, 2021

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                      bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(May 21, 2021 11:35 PM)

                      another troll with stupid jokes.
                      Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
                      Without strife, you do not advance.
                      Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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                        JewFro — 4 years ago(May 22, 2021 01:29 AM)

                        another troll with stupid jokes.
                        NO,Nimda has to face his main pimp,deliciousfeet, before making any decision.
                        Lara Croft September 6, 2021

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                          bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(May 22, 2021 09:19 PM)

                          typical stonehead moron!
                          Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
                          Without strife, you do not advance.
                          Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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                            JewFro — 4 years ago(May 23, 2021 01:40 AM)

                            NO,Nimda has to face his main pimp,deliciousfeet, before making any decision.
                            Lara Croft September 6, 2021

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                              bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(May 24, 2021 01:13 AM)

                              i cant understand what he's saying turdbrain.
                              Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
                              Without strife, you do not advance.
                              Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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                                rosebud — 4 years ago(May 23, 2021 09:44 AM)

                                It's just a movie! Not meant to be a historical document.

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                                  bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(May 24, 2021 01:12 AM)

                                  Ooh really,
                                  so why did they use Historical names, stories, location, and added that little detail on the side, based on a true story MORON!
                                  Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
                                  Without strife, you do not advance.
                                  Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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                                    rosebud — 4 years ago(May 29, 2021 05:15 PM)

                                    based on
                                    It's only based on a true story, NOT the true story. MORON.

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                                      bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(May 30, 2021 12:33 AM)

                                      WHEN THE WHOLE SHIT IS FULL OF CRAP IS NOT BASED ON ANYTHING EXCEPT ONE'S IDIOT IMAGINATION MORONNNNNNNNN!!!!!
                                      Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
                                      Without strife, you do not advance.
                                      Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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                                        AndrewDavidscott76 — 4 years ago(June 03, 2021 12:08 PM)

                                        I get your passion on this subject. I'm a massive fan of the American Old West and have a small library of books on the era.
                                        Costner's take on Earp was a bit better. I can watch 'Historical' Westerns and separate myself from the fact they are mostly bollocks, but it is very annoying.
                                        One of the worst is Walter Hill's Wild Bill, absolute made up rubbish, with the only redeeming feature, for me, being Bridges performance.
                                        I usually stick with decent books on the subject, with films as entertainment only.
                                        Willian 'Billy' Breakenridges book Helldorado is a different take on the Earp story, but he is in the Behan/Clanton camp in his bias.
                                        If you're interested in Hickok you should read Joseph G. Rosa's works.
                                        Rosa, Robert K. DeArment and Leon Claire Metz are the classic authors on Old West history, and I recommend them all highly.

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                                          bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(June 04, 2021 08:52 AM)

                                          I dont want to waste my time on white supremacy fictional garbage. I finally got somebody who knows and agrees. If this movie was just purely fiction with a lot of different fictional names and characters I'd have no beef but when it takes into account historical figures, settings, and stories and pushes into tv we got a load of **** where tardheads like the one above doesnt care what he's being fed and believes some of the **** theyre pushing without a clue. I too used to a big fan until out of curiosity looked it up myself and found myself filled with ****. I was shocked on how different and the crap they were trying to sell. It's an abomination to media and it's usage and it has a hidden agenda it is pushing. I think society as a whole should be more conscious and punish such actions severely so we wouldnt have such turried filled garbage. With acts like this we wouldnt have such stupidity such as fake news, unaccountability, and agenda pushing messages. But because they are all stupid we have a huge mess.
                                          Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
                                          Without strife, you do not advance.
                                          Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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