people who complain about Friends not being diverse enough
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Sophie Fevvers
— 10 months ago(May 10, 2025 02:00 PM)people who complain about Friends not being diverse enough always piss me off. that show was 30 freaking years ago and it was more diverse than anything mainstream around. the characters dated black and Asian people. they were of Italian and Jewish backgrounds, Ross’s ex was a lesbian and Chandlers dad became a trans woman. it literally had everything. if you seriously want to hate on Friends find a better argument or shut the **** up
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sheetsadam1 — 10 months ago(May 10, 2025 02:18 PM)
There is an unrealistic expectation these days for everything to adhere to modern standards, which I think puts us at risk of discarding the truly groundbreaking works of the past that helped get us where we are.
The one that really pisses me off is when people accuse Tarantino of being a racist or misogynist, as if he hasn't cast Black and/or female leads in all but two of the movies he's made.
Compare their filmographys and not a single other white director of his generation comes close in terms of casting diversity.
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magnificent butthole — 10 months ago(May 10, 2025 10:44 PM)
There is an unrealistic expectation these days for everything to adhere to modern standards, which I think puts us at risk of discarding the truly groundbreaking works of the past that helped get us where we are.
But isn't that the point?
Too drive a wedge. To get you to say, "ok boomer" to anything that resembles something sensible.
To get a person to separate themselves from their culture. To replace that culture with whatever they're trying to sell you.
To convince you that new crap is the good stuff and the old stuff that worked for generations is somehow useless.
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sheetsadam1 — 10 months ago(May 11, 2025 03:02 AM)
You're not wrong exactly, but I do think that everything balances out in time. It's natural for teenagers to rebel against their parents. Then they get out into the real world and realize that their parents may have known a thing or two. They then finally settle for something in the middle. This is something that has been happening for centuries.
My real complaint is with critics and journalists who should know better pushing false narratives that the uninformed accept uncritically. One example that comes to mind is all of the pieces last year about Beyonce's latest album finally breaking down the doors for Black artists in country music. Now, I don't mind Beyonce or her album and have no love for the Nashville music industry, but this narrative invalidates the entire careers of Country Music Hall of Famers DeFord Bailey and Charley Pride. Pride, in particular, was massively successful in his time, racking up thirty number one hits and four Grammys. There is, of course, a case to be made that industry hasn't been as inclusive as it could have been, that this should be corrected going forward and that perhaps Beyonce can be a catalyst for making that happen, and her role as the first Black woman to have a #1 hit on the country charts should be rightly commended, but one doesn't need to step over past pioneers to do any of that.
Sorry for the tangent, but tl;dr is that we need more informed critics as well as entertainment journalists who will do more than parrot press releases.
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magnificent butthole — 10 months ago(May 12, 2025 12:36 PM)
If they are constructing false narratives about unimportant distracting like pop music, can we really know or trust that they wouldn't do that in the areas of our lives that actually matter? As in complete fabrications like that Beyonce narrative where everyone was on board and so invested that they even legitimized her with awards.
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soapbox original gangster — 10 months ago(May 10, 2025 08:44 PM)
And why is diversity a good thing in and of itself? and a lack, bad?
Ross ex wife lesbian is a tragedy not diversity, and Chandler dad going to a female sex is an unadulterated nightmare to be avoided not celebrated -
WarrenPeace — 10 months ago(May 10, 2025 09:04 PM)
I never got that hate because weren’t there other shows that, “Weren’t diverse enough?”
Or look at The Cosby Show or Bel Aire?
Why no complaints of them not having any white friends?
Besides, it’s a fact of life.
Birds of a feather.
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MistaWeek — 10 months ago(May 10, 2025 11:25 PM)
None of the programs on those black networks now are diverse at all and not even close to real.
No one has a felony record or knows someone who was killed in a drive by or was murdered for their shoes not to mention everyone has a father.
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headstar — 10 months ago(May 19, 2025 07:54 PM)
The main cast of Friends being 100% white is not unrealistic. Even in 2025 Americans (regardless of race) tend to stick to their own race.
What was unrealistic is that even the NYC background characters were strictly white too.
i find that quite odd
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