Did Phoebe ever write a full song?
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The_Aspiring_Writer — 9 years ago(September 26, 2016 10:48 AM)
I'll agree that Phoebe's music is just a non-work-related hobby, because she's really a masseuse. But whenever she sings, she always sings one verse and a few lines. Maybe the scene starts when she's already in the middle of them, but other times, she starts at the beginning of one, sings a few lines, and then that's it.
Don't get me wrong; I love her provocative music, but it's always so short. "Smelly Cat" maybe might act as a fully song, but it really just loops.
Smelly cat, smelly cat - what are they feeding you
Smelly cat, smelly cat - it's not your fault
They won't take you to the vet
Obviously not their favorite pet
May not be a bed of roses*
You're no friends to those with noses*
Smelly cat, smelly cat - what are they feeding you
Smelly cat, smelly cat - it's not your fault
*I feel like I got those lines wrong.
It doesn't sound like she writes many full songs, which are roughly three and half minutes on average.
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Moonlighty — 9 years ago(September 27, 2016 07:14 AM)
I think we can assume she wrote all her songs as full songs but we only hears snippets. Since a song is approximately about 3 minutes in length and a show is approximately 22 minutes of content, it wouldn't make sense for a whole song to be played out.
Consider the daffodil. And while you're doing that I'll be over here looking through your stuff.
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Wildstyle26 — 9 years ago(September 27, 2016 07:18 AM)
Yeah. They messed up when they had Stephanie do that in season 2. She starts working at Central Perk in replacement of Phoebe. And I recall her singing for so long that I had to fast-forward through that crap.
If you're gonna pretend to cut her hair, at least put some scissors in your hand!
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Wildstyle26 — 9 years ago(September 27, 2016 08:36 AM)
I still thought it was too much.
Everybody Loves Raymond
had Kristi Yamaguchi as a guest, but we didn't spend 5+ min. watching her skate.
So I do think her singing went on too long for the episode. Now if it was popular, then great. I wasn't watching Friends when this episode came out. So I don't know if it was praised highly for that scene in the 90s.
But myself, and others that I read, are in agreement with one another anyway as fans that the singing went on too long.
If you're gonna pretend to cut her hair, at least put some scissors in your hand!
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Wildstyle26 — 9 years ago(September 27, 2016 09:09 AM)
It was a mess-up for me. I think it was too long, and don't have the patience for sitting through it. When you're not a fan of something,
to you
, it's not good.
Like how many fans HATED Joey x Rachel. But the writers still felt they needed to have that story-line. I am sure they had reasons for that too. Even though Jennifer and Matt didn't care it.
Everything on this show was done with a reason. But fans still hate some stuff -the reasoning behind it is moot. You hate a plot, character choice, character, story line, etc. The creators know what they have in mind when making the episodes. But some fans won't always care for elements of it.
I think it was overkill -In the name and plot of the episode. We know Phoebe's plight. She wants to sing and play and CP. But now a professional comes in, which causes envy and intimidation, especially when everyone responds better to her. So Phoebe gets the shaft. But singing an ENTIRE song just seemed to be off pacing wise. Maybe have her start singing + playing, to show she's good. Then pan over to show the reactions of Phoebe and Rachel, then fade out of the scene to more actual story.
If you're gonna pretend to cut her hair, at least put some scissors in your hand!
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Robert_A_Fett — 9 years ago(September 27, 2016 12:32 PM)
But it wasn't a "mess up" like the Joey/Rachel thing, which had an impact on the show's story arc, while this did not. This was a couple of minutes where they wanted to showcase a well-known singer, and it wasn't relevant to the plot. This is like a joke you didn't find funny.
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Wildstyle26 — 9 years ago(September 27, 2016 12:44 PM)
If you don't like the term messed up. Fine. I'll change to "I think it was a waste of time in a
Friends
episode." Why the song was full length is moot to that critique.
If you're gonna pretend to cut her hair, at least put some scissors in your hand!
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The_Aspiring_Writer — 9 years ago(September 27, 2016 05:45 PM)
But what about that same episode?
"Stephaniiiie knows all the chords."
That was it. Where was that going to go? All Phoebe knew about Stephanie was that she was a professional guitarist and that she knew all the chords.
In season 5's The One With the Kips, there's a few seconds where all Phoebe is doing is singing "la la la" and whistling.
And in season 3, she sings "Jingle Bitch" about the woman who took "Smelly Cat" for a commercial jingle.
One more example is in season 7 when Phoebe is sampling songs to Monica that she wanted to play at the wedding. In her defense in "First Time I Met Chandler," she says that part of the songs goes on. But all the other ones, "Addicted to Pork," "Whenever I Get Married," and then the two she sings outside of their bedroom door, it sounded like she was making up lines on the spot.
"Until I was 25, I thought the only response to 'I love you' was 'Oh, crap.'" -Chandler Bing