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……all created by her own willful bitchery.

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    ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 04, 2022 12:14 PM)

    They filmed a scene like in the novel,
    where Joe manages to climb out and Dolores konks him on the head with a rock.
    Hackford the director said it made the sequence too long though. I also feel it made it look more accidental for the movie too.
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      Cheeky — 3 years ago(September 04, 2022 12:20 PM)

      Oh! I didn't know that
      King wanted Joe to really have his karma served up to him
      If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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        ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 04, 2022 12:22 PM)

        Joe was a hateful pig. Kudos to Strathairn for making him real and believable.
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          Cheeky — 3 years ago(September 04, 2022 12:25 PM)

          He really was good in that part
          If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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            ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 04, 2022 12:27 PM)

            Not an easy role to play. Takes a lot of skill and talent, and Strathairn has it in spades.
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              Cheeky — 3 years ago(September 04, 2022 12:30 PM)

              Agreed! That cringe scene on the ferry… that would have been uncomfortable for an actor I would think
              If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 04, 2022 12:38 PM)

                Yes and I wonder if the young actress that played Selena knew the intention behind it at the time.
                Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                  Cheeky — 3 years ago(September 04, 2022 05:26 PM)

                  Oh yes, I think she probably did
                  If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                    ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 04, 2022 10:29 PM)

                    Cheeky said...
                    Oh yes, I think she probably did
                    She was well cast. Sometimes with child actors, they shield them from the harsher aspects. This girl was a teen though.
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                      Cheeky — 3 years ago(September 04, 2022 10:41 PM)

                      ToastedCheese said...
                      She was well cast. Sometimes with child actors, they shield them from the harsher aspects. This girl was a teen though.
                      Yes, when they're little they should shield them
                      They also might use actors who look younger than their years too
                      If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                        ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 04, 2022 11:48 PM)

                        Cheeky said...
                        Yes, when they're little they should shield them
                        They also might use actors who look younger than their years too
                        Looked her up. The actress had just turned 14 when the film was shot. Jodie Foster was 13 I think, when she starred in
                        Taxi Driver
                        . Dolores was shot in Nova Scotia, doubling for Maine.
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                          Cheeky — 3 years ago(September 05, 2022 12:52 AM)

                          ToastedCheese said...
                          Looked her up. The actress had just turned 14 when the film was shot. Jodie Foster was 13 I think, when she starred in
                          Taxi Driver
                          . Dolores was shot in Nova Scotia, doubling for Maine.
                          I read the book Aaron Hernandez' brother wrote about his life
                          He experienced molestation as a child and was too scared to tell. Probably because of his father's hatred for homosexuals
                          Aaron was gay, but too scared/ashamed to come out. Plus, he had brain damage from an early age that caused paranoia
                          He had suicidal tendencies even before he was sent to prison. So sad what happened… I feel that he was doomed because of his brain damage… he was very talented but too damaged to live a normal, happy life
                          If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                            ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 05, 2022 02:05 AM)

                            Cheeky said...
                            I read the book Aaron Hernandez' brother wrote about his life
                            He experienced molestation as a child and was too scared to tell. Probably because of his father's hatred for homosexuals
                            Aaron was gay, but too scared/ashamed to come out. Plus, he had brain damage from an early age that caused paranoia
                            He had suicidal tendencies even before he was sent to prison. So sad what happened… I feel that he was doomed because of his brain damage… he was very talented but too damaged to live a normal, happy life
                            Apparently Hernandez was guilty of the murder, but was it really a suicide death of Aaron.
                            Abusive childhood, exacerbates the circle of violence. The mother sounds like a twerp.
                            Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                              Cheeky — 3 years ago(September 05, 2022 02:26 AM)

                              ToastedCheese said...
                              Apparently Hernandez was guilty of the murder, but was it really a suicide death of Aaron.
                              Abusive childhood, exacerbates the circle of violence. The mother sounds like a twerp.
                              Their mom was loving but she had a sometimes violent relationship with her husband
                              Jonathan asked Aaron if he had done it, Aaron said drugs will make you do crazy things but not crazy enough to kill someone… he told his brother "no"
                              I think I've posted this before
                              If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                                ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 05, 2022 02:48 AM)

                                Cheeky said...
                                Their mom was loving but she had a sometimes violent relationship with her husband
                                Jonathan asked Aaron if he had done it, Aaron said drugs will make you do crazy things but not crazy enough to kill someone… he told his brother "no"
                                I think I've posted this before
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7qpraVIHzo
                                I will have to read more up on the case, but that is a redundant statement by Aaron, because drugs CAN make you crazy enough to Kill someone. There is plenty of general evidence to support this.
                                Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                  Cheeky — 3 years ago(September 05, 2022 03:01 AM)

                                  ToastedCheese said...
                                  I will have to read more up on the case, but that is a redundant statement by Aaron, because drugs CAN make you crazy enough to Kill someone. There is plenty of general evidence to support this.
                                  Yes, they can… but he can only speak for himself to a serious question posed by his only sibling
                                  If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                                    ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(September 05, 2022 05:02 AM)

                                    Cheeky said...
                                    Yes, they can… but he can only speak for himself to a serious question posed by his only sibling
                                    Whichever is truth, he is gone now and a lot of it is due to how screwed up he was due to the child abuse.
                                    Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                      Cheeky — 3 years ago(September 05, 2022 05:00 PM)

                                      ToastedCheese said...
                                      Whichever is truth, he is gone now and a lot of it is due to how screwed up he was due to the child abuse.
                                      Very much so… his father and his mother for not protecting him from his father, and the molestation at the babysitters
                                      Add severe head trauma that began when he was a kid, and it makes for a tragic life that didn't have to be that way
                                      If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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