From a man's point of view.
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parvati_patil — 18 years ago(April 14, 2007 08:42 AM)
It was a bit scary to hear two woemn talking like that, but they were not talking about a simple argument between a couple. They were talking about a man who was drinking, who had no respect for his wife, who stole money from the members of his own family and who sexually abused his own daughter. There's a difference.
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FuzzyWzhe — 18 years ago(May 08, 2007 07:24 AM)
Haha, actually - the character of Deloris is a woman I could totally love. She wasn't abusive or hateful, she was patient let a lot of stuff slide, and then drew a line when it should have been drawn. Her husband couldn't have had a better woman, or underappreciate her more. Deloris' character isn't threatening at all to me in that I think that either a woman or man placed in the same situation would act identically since it's completely justifiable.
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poorlittleteacher — 17 years ago(October 21, 2008 11:59 AM)
But the conversations between Kathy Bates and Judy Parfitt were beep scary!
I'm a woman and that David Mamet-style "not TALKING, but just talking" conversation about what Dolores should do in her situation scared ME! Both women were amazing in that scene.
Oh, and yes, you must always let your wife win an argument (or at least make her think she did).
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Gambit771 — 16 years ago(September 15, 2009 10:05 AM)
Do men actually believe they should never argue back or stick up for themselves because of the misandrist "hell hath no fury" isn't that a form of oppression and domestic abuse as well or like many things today it's only wrong if a man does it but ok when done by a woman?
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BulletHeadedSaxonMothersSon — 16 years ago(November 21, 2009 08:00 PM)
Do men actually believe they should never argue back or stick up for themselves because of the misandrist "hell hath no fury"
Many, if not most, men do.
isn't that a form of oppression and domestic abuse as well
It's a form of psychological abuse that would
never
be tolerated if it went the other way.
like many things today it's only wrong if a man does it but ok when done by a woman?
That's the double standard.
you must always let your wife win an argument (or at least make her think she did). It's the power of the P-U-you know what!
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lyndadavis7721 — 12 years ago(June 12, 2013 06:51 PM)
Ummm excuse me, are you trying to say that if it were about a mother sexually abusing her son people would not think she deserved to die? Because if so you're full of crap. Because when mothers abuse their children sexually I think people consider it much worse as it's something people really don't ever expect a mother to do-especially to a child she gave birth to. It seems to disturb people on a much deeper level. People take trying to point out double standards too far when they start saying things that are flat out not true.
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warlok1 — 16 years ago(April 04, 2010 02:46 AM)
from above :
As I said I'm not abusive or anything but my wife and I do argue, but everytime I watch this movie I think "Damn, maybe I should just let her win the fight."
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Damn, I was just thinking the same thing! Was thinking.. "Men, do not EVER Piss off your woman" -
avortac — 13 years ago(September 11, 2012 04:13 AM)
What is this? Your comment is pure misandry and woman-praising. Oh, whenever a woman murders, it MUST be because a MAN has treated her so bad! She never has any other choice, the poor thing - let's all always sympathize the women-murderers, they are such good people!
Are you out of your mind? Have you no decency? Men are good people. Women-murderers should be treated like murderers, not like some divine creatures who can do no wrong!
I am sick of these misandristic movies that always portray men as evil, and women as good - eventhough the women are murderers or whatnot. It's sickening.
Just reverse the genders in this movie to see my point - would have been much more of a 'horror' movie to most people, if they ever saw a man even talk to a woman the way that old hag talked to the 'evil husband' caricature.
You really think this movie is something to look up to, enough to change your behaviour towards your wife? Because woman-murderers are so cool, you should simply always give up and "let her win"?
You are really a pure mangina, there's no doubt about that. Your comment is not from a man's point of view - it's from a typical profeminist "white-knighting"-asskisser's point of view, in the hopes that women would see how you are praising and defending them and you could earn some nice pats on your head.
Would you really be saying the same things about men, if the genders in this movie were reversed? Would you, really?
Would you be willing to think that women should just let men win the fights? (Not that women have much choice, because in a REAL fight, women couldn't hold a candle to men - they would lose pretty much every fight - except maybe against people like you - who might not really be who you claim to be anyway, "dedpug" (whatever that means). There was this muscle-hag who called herself "the strongest woman in the world", who decided to go to a bar and arm wrestle some men. She won the first drunken douche, but the second random barguy beat her easily (in arm wrestling). So much for women's "power".
If this movie really sends such a message and makes people think like you do, then this movie is evil, and pure misandry as such. There will be a time when men will be acknowledged as human beings who shouldn't be insulted, despised, laughed at, made to look like fools (or evil) in movies and TV shows. And how barbaric this age and people like you will look then.. I can only hope you will have learned the decency to feel shame by then. Because if you have, you will be in AGONY.
Misery is a good movie, because it shows that women can be evil and merciless, and a MAN is shown as victim, and the audience is supposed to cheer for him for once. What a rare treat - can you name other movies like that? I bet you can't.
But this piece of beep reverses all that good progress and reverts back to the usual, typical misandry. The stereotype of an evil boozehound of a worker man (who the wife CHOSE - but this is never explored - why didn't the wife choose a good, boozeless man? Take some responsibility for your stupid choices, bitch!) is so tired, that it almost comes as a shock to see hollywood still using it in such a modern movie. It's really stupid, it's really insulting, and it's really misandry.
Man-hating movies like this should be openly despised, and comments like yours should be shown for the propaganda and misandry they represent. A hate-crime, really.