Y'all are making me uneasy…
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puschit-1 — 10 years ago(August 04, 2015 02:46 AM)
The original story DOES include a love interest - but that is Mathilda falling in love with Leon. Many scenes still hint at that and depending on the version you got there is a scene where she actually asks Leon to sleep with him but he refuses. But this isn't really about sex, Mathilda just wants to be adult and taken seriously, also she wants to bind Leon to her since he is both her father and protector (and later teacher).
Anyway, love interest or not, it's pointless to discuss this with americans, anything barely sexual is criminalized over there and just trying to defend Leon probably makes me a pedo, perv, sexual predator or whatever their newest buzzword is. -
ipacac22 — 10 years ago(September 15, 2015 04:57 PM)
Anyway, love interest or not, it's pointless to discuss this with americans, anything barely sexual is criminalized over there and just trying to defend Leon probably makes me a pedo, perv, sexual predator or whatever their newest buzzword is.
Get off your high horse dude. You've probably never met an American based on your sweeping generalizations. You're just regurgitating the same crap that you hear about this country on whatever garbage media outlet you subscribe to. On top of that I don't see anywhere where the nationality of any poster is labeled. It must suck not being able to think for yourself.
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puschit-1 — 10 years ago(September 16, 2015 01:01 AM)
Actually that assessment is basing on my own observations and conversations with americans on various websites, forums etc. in the past 20 years. Add to that the ridiculous MPAA rating system that weeds out anything barely sexual but has no problem with decapiations in movies for 12yos, incidents like "nipplegate", the countless abstinence-only advocate groups in the US (not just groups, the local government Utah was considering legislature to make it illegal to teach anything but abstinence only in grade school!), the fact that there are STILL numerous states that outlaw practices like oral sex
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sharp_shooter94952 — 10 years ago(September 22, 2015 02:39 PM)
I'm American and I agree with puschit. We're so deathly afraid of sexuality that even in this film with zero nudity or sex scenes people lose their minds. Never mind a 12 year old that's killing or aiding in the murder of dozens - she has a crush OMG!@
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lanis_cupus — 10 years ago(January 31, 2016 07:00 PM)
Does she have a crush or is she mentally disturbed? I think the latter. And she would be after all she's been through. The point is that there's something unhealthy about a 12 year old having such a pronounced interest (sexual included) in an older man. Yes, Mathilda just wants to feel grown upbut she wants to do so by way of sex (and violence). This is a sign of someone who's been abused, which is clearly the case.
Watch the original (long) version. There's very little innocence to be found. The themes run deep and tragic. And as for Leon, I did notice a moment where he seemed to be "checking" his desires. It was the time he left the apartment, paused, and exhaled heavily. He might have even leaned back against the door. I don't feel that this was sheer exasperation but regardless, this movie has a sexual strain and I believe it's meant to.
In the end, Mathilda comes to terms and we find out she's still a little girl (underneath it all), perhaps more capable of loving a plant than a human being. It's as if Leon went into the darkness and rescued her innocence. But the journey to get there was treacherous and this movie should not be taken lightly. -
SnoozeAlarm — 10 years ago(February 10, 2016 09:27 PM)
she has a crush OMG
Saying to someone "I want you to have sex with me" is not how I've ever heard the term "having a crush" used.
Having a crush is, in my experience, more along the lines of thinking "Oh, he's so handsome!"
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Pantstrovich — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 11:13 AM)
Demisexuality refers to only being able to be sexually attracted to someone once you've formed an emotional bond with them.
"He's so handsome," implies something much more shallow to me, as it only refers to looks.
So I'm confused as to why you are asking them that.
Having a crush, to me is like something not very serious, like the way 12-14 year old girls might feel about boys in Teen Bop or whatever. (I don't even know if that is relevant or understood today.) It's more innocent and more based on fantasy than reality, even in the case of a person you actually know, because when it's just a crush, you don't usually know the person very well, so you kind of fill in the gaps with your imagination/hopes. It's more like, "Wouldn't it be dreamy if he liked me too and we went on a date and kissed at the end?" -
joeljdevlin — 10 years ago(October 25, 2015 06:56 PM)
"This, however, is not entirely accurate. When the film was first test screened in Los Angeles, the only scene that the audience reacted to was the scene where Mathilda propositions Lon, and he rejects her. The audience responded with nervous laughter, and Besson was pressured to remove the scene. "
http://www.imdb.com/board/10110413/faq?ref_=tt_faq_3#.2.1.14
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Daimaju — 10 years ago(February 01, 2016 08:16 PM)
Anyway, love interest or not, it's pointless to discuss this with americans, anything barely sexual is criminalized over there and just trying to defend Leon probably makes me a pedo, perv, sexual predator or whatever their newest buzzword is.
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angryskorpion-44260 — 9 years ago(September 07, 2016 07:32 PM)
I completely agree with you! We Americans are seriously beep up in that regard. We idolize Edgar A. Poe who married his FIRST COUSIN when she was TWELVE and then convict a person of pedophilia for sleeping with a 17 year old the day before her 18th birthday. Like 18 is some magical number that transforms a person overnight! Females are physically ready to procreate at 13. Complaints should be addressed to mother nature.
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SnoozeAlarm — 9 years ago(September 08, 2016 12:48 AM)
The main thing that I hate about threads like this is people who say: "anyone who interprets this movie in such-and-such a way must be a closet pedophile" or must have any kind of deep psychological disturbance. It just takes a certain kind of sadistic tendency to try to imply that people do, just because of how they interpret a movie scene.
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angryskorpion-44260 — 9 years ago(September 08, 2016 01:01 PM)
The bitch about is that almost EVERYBODY on Earth has had thoughts about minors. Whether it's a great looking actress/actor in a movie or someone you see in person. It's physiology. Not that long ago women got married and had children at 13. Nobody ran around screaming PEDOPHILE at those people. Watch the movie "Far From Home". A 14 year old Drew Barrymore was all sexed up for the role. This was done INTENTIONALLY by the filmmaker. And i'm supposed to feel like a pedo for having thoughts about her?? Yeah..right. I would bet my own life that Drew wasn't even a real life virgin when she made that movie! Now, abducting a minor and forcing them to do things is a different matter. That is psychotic.
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MELlSANDRE — 10 years ago(October 23, 2015 06:50 PM)
You sound like you have a broom up your butt. Yes, Mathilda loves Leon. She TELLS him she does, unless you watched a watered down version more suited to you. And I am a girl, not a pedo and definitely, infinitely not as ridiculously offended as you by cinematic art.