It kind of sucks if you don't want to be santa…
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ss5mmyers — 15 years ago(December 12, 2010 05:25 PM)
The way the movie went it seemed to imply a mental change as well as a physical one. As time went on, he became more open to the idea of being Santa Claus and generally changed his attitude about a lot of things like how toys should be made and ethics in business.
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GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 14 years ago(August 05, 2011 06:56 PM)
"Don't kill Santa then, you jerk."
So you're telling me that if you hear someone walking around on the roof of your house, you won't go outside, see who it is, then yell, "Hey you!"?
For all Scott knew it was a robber dressed like Santa Clause.
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ferrisbueller11 — 15 years ago(December 18, 2010 11:03 PM)
I guess I always looked at is as having a sort of fate element to it. Scott was not leading a happy life as it was, though he may have thought he was. Ultimately becoming Santa Claus made him incredibly happy and brought him closer to the person that was most important to him. I don't know that the first Santa would have fallen off the roof at just anyone's house. Know what I mean?
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Remegy64 — 15 years ago(December 23, 2010 02:32 PM)
It's also implied that the other Santa wasn't much of a great Santa, and Scott turns out to be a huge improvement (You mean
home
improvement? yeah, I went there; sorry) Take a look at the scene where the elves first find out that the other Santa fell off the roof. They don't seem very heartbroken, especially Bernard, who would have been the closest to him.
Then take a look at the end. All the elves are eager to prevent Scott from falling off the roof. They all seem happier, and Scott is definitely happier. You could say that Fate was a huge factor in making Scott the next Santa.
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ss5mmyers — 15 years ago(December 29, 2010 07:10 PM)
They may have gone through thousands of Santas though and don't have much attachment to any of them. They all look the same way, so to them, it might as well be the same guy. Bernard should have been the least close to him personal wise as he is the oldest and probably seen the most Santas. The elves didn't try to protect Santa from dying so much as they did prevent him from getting arrested. Comet gave him the rope, but who knows if that was sincere or a cruel trick.
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NobodymournstheWicked — 13 years ago(December 24, 2012 07:37 PM)
Yeah but also keep in mind that Scott Calvin only read the back of the card, and not also on the front of the card. You know the clause part that was running on the sides and top and bottom that Bernard had to read to him. He asked him if he read the card he said he read the card, but he didn't say that he only read the back. So it is more Scott's fault that he ended up forced to become the new Santa. Since I bet he didn't even think to also read the front where he would have read that clause. Here is what was on the card that he had failed to notice
The Santa Clause: In putting on this suit and entering the sleigh, the wearer waives any and all rights to any previous identity, real or implied, and fully accepts the duties and responsibilities of Santa Claus, in perpetuity until such time that the wearer becomes unable to do so, by either accident or design.
Now I bet if he had seen this part, it would have been different, cause he might have thought he would just be done after that night and never have to do that again. It teaches you to always read the fine print. So it is not Bernard's fault that Scott didn't read that, it is Scott's own fault as to he only read the back of the card. And if he had read it and I know I said it before, then I am sure he would have refused to put the suit on, and he wouldn't have taken the new job that would only get him out of it by either accident or design which who knows what they mean by the latter part. -
NobodymournstheWicked — 13 years ago(December 24, 2012 07:49 PM)
Here is the part of the card that Scott did read
If something should happen to me, put on my suit; the reindeer will know what to do.
Which is what anybody with not much of a brain power might only read a little bit of a contract read he is getting something good that he might only get once, and doesn't read the full print signs it and for all they know that could be signing up for something for life. Or something that could turn out to be bad, like a robber could be a lot smarter give him something to write that he might be pretending to be there for another job when he is really there to rob the place. -
door_hinge — 13 years ago(December 30, 2012 11:13 AM)
I've always thought of the "wrong guy" becoming Santa scenario more like this: what happens if a complete scum bag becomes Santa and wants to remains a scum bag? If some drug addict, spousal abuser conked Scott Calvin in the head the next Christmas, Bernard and the gang are in for a surprise when the sled and the new Santa descend into the North Pole. Bernard's guilt speech of "then there will be millions of disappointed children" won't work on such a guy. In the alternate universe where this is real, the folks at the North Pole, in possession of all their magic, came up with a really poor system to replace Santa. Every Christmas Eve, when Santa departs, it's anybody's guess as to who is coming back.
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contos — 11 years ago(December 03, 2014 06:32 AM)
I remember seeing this movie when I was 10 (around 1996) and I found the entire concept very cruel and at the end I was left very disappointed and with a deep feeling of injustice. I never watched it again lol XD
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ShiningSeal — 11 years ago(December 10, 2014 02:04 PM)
I agree. On the upside, though, it also kinda seemed like maybe there was a "spell" on him or something - some kind that forces you to suddenly like being Santa, whether you initially wanted to or not. Remember his sudden Santa Clause/Elf enthusiasm when he attended his business meeting. And he said, "I don't know what got into me," to his boss. I guess in a way it'd be kind of merciful - I mean if you
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TheLordofTheHarvest — 9 years ago(December 01, 2016 08:47 PM)
I loved this movie as a kid and still do; it's negatives never bothered me.
The forcing itself on somebody part I do agree was out there but it turned out to be for the best in hindsight. It made Scott the man he needed to be and something he could be proud of for Charlie and his ex. He traded a life of greed and loneliness for a life of un-selfishness and love. Not so bad.
I always interpreted it that the previous Santa must have been a very cold hearted guy. Notice how everyone kept working when Scott first showed up and were kind of rude to him. The predecessor must have been all about work and not very sociable hence why the elves were moody to start out with; they hadn't been talked too much with the previous Santas. Even Bernard changed by the end. In his debut scene he was all business then by the end he's helping with ideas and helping to lead when Scott's jailed.
You can tell by how the North Pole looks like. At the start it's very beautiful yet feels cold due to how business like it was, but by the end when Scott was fully Santa the whole place was getting brighter and changing for the better. They made an epic sleigh full of tools and gadgets; they made a safer suit for santa with the radio, and they had the elf squad. Scott made them a machine but one with a heart.
By Part 2 the whole world's different (I know it was 8 years later between films lol,) but everything's for the better. Scott made that difference. -
strntz — 9 years ago(December 02, 2016 07:31 AM)
But now watching it, it seems like Scott is kind of forced into being Santa when he doesn't want to.
I don't think it was a binding clause. I think Bernard was very crafty and evasive when Scott first arrived after his first night as Santa.
When Scott said something to the effect that perhaps he didn't want to be Santa, Bernard's response was not tough nuts and that Scott's being Santa was irrevocable, he told Scott that he wouldn't want to disappoint the children
I think if Scott protested more, then he would have been released from the deal and another Santa would be selected using the "Contingency Clause" (hey, another sequel idea!!).
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flobiwan — 9 years ago(December 12, 2016 11:50 AM)
When i was a kid i always felt so sorry for Santa. It seemed to me that having to go up and down every chimney in every house all over the world would be a boring, agonizing torture. I always thought of how exhausted i was after just trick or treating in my small neighborhood.