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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Timecop


    Mac-59 — 21 years ago(August 24, 2004 02:00 AM)

    I know it's redundant to point out paradoxes in a time-travel flick, (I have, to date, not seen one without them) but this is more of a paradox/plot mistake.
    Why are they even policing time travel at all? How are people going back in time since according to the characters, there are only 2 machines in existence: the one they are using and the prototype in Calverton, Maryland. Metuzak even says it out loud: "how is the senator making these alleged trip into the past?"
    Besides crooked timecops, who has access to this equiptment?

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      jjreed — 21 years ago(December 23, 2004 09:24 PM)

      How about this flaw. (Spoilers) Van Damme saves the day. He rescues his wife of 10 years ago by carrying her out of the house just before it blows up, and sets her next to his unconsious body of 10 years ago before returning to the future. When he returns to the future and goes home he ends up at his house in which he had lived in with his wife 10 years ago. I guess that house somehow magically got put back together after it was oblitorated by C4.

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        triforcer — 21 years ago(December 25, 2004 03:44 AM)

        one i can't get over is where the hell the pods go after they punch through time and another is how the hell did they get back in the pod in re-entry.

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          plastic_plan — 21 years ago(December 29, 2004 07:26 PM)

          When Ever Stuff Like This Happens In Movies, A Wizard Did It.
          Cheers.

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            twopetsnakes — 21 years ago(February 12, 2005 06:01 AM)

            alsowhat happened to his mullet? it was there in one scene, but disappeared.
            why are you wearing that stupid man suit? -dd

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              eschwartz80 — 20 years ago(January 17, 2006 09:13 PM)

              They could have had that house rebuilt.

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                JR541 — 20 years ago(February 18, 2006 10:39 PM)

                jreed wrote: ""I guess that house somehow magically got put back together after it was oblitorated by C4."" You can actually rebuild a house without magic.
                He's taking the knife out of the Cheese!
                Do you think he wants some cheese?

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                  uk_jb — 20 years ago(August 08, 2005 06:07 PM)

                  They mention something about 'Iran trying for the 5 time this month or something'. Perhaps the prototype was the only other machine in America.

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                    Elson321 — 20 years ago(August 11, 2005 05:02 PM)

                    Despite the flaws, it is still an enjoyable film.

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                      giamatt02 — 20 years ago(August 23, 2005 01:00 PM)

                      I think it was sort of like nuclear weapons, US developed the first one, and then eventually other countries developed their own.

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                        polsixe — 17 years ago(August 24, 2008 05:52 PM)

                        Walker was making the timecop trips for 9-10 years, he had told the wife in 1994 that he was joining the new unit of the Washington PD, so, yes, like weapons other people can copy. There were only two known units in the US. It also took the senator about 10 years to figure out his plan of using the technology. Also, the home insurance carriers would rebuild equivalent to the old, maybe Mr. and Mrs. Walker wanted a visual duplicate.

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                          Spifflock_Holmes — 17 years ago(August 25, 2008 06:52 AM)

                          . . . maybe Mr. and Mrs. Walker wanted a visual duplicate.
                          There's no need to rebuild the house, now that McComb disappeared in 1994 and therefore never went back and destroyed it in the first place.
                          But that probably is what happened after the house was destroyed the "first" time: Max had it rebuilt just as it was, so that he could live there and remember Melissa.

                          The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                            mrsantUSCG — 17 years ago(March 16, 2009 07:45 AM)

                            when he travels back he kills the 1994 senator by joining him with the 2004 senator. Now since the senator dies in 1994 he never gets to age to his 2004 version who travels back in time to destroy the house, no evil senator in 2004 means no one comes back to destroy the house anymore.

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                              dipetriantonio — 16 years ago(February 24, 2010 09:16 AM)

                              Yeah, but with that logic no evil Senator in 2004 also means no evil senator can come back in time and get annihilated with his younger self, therefore the younger self being older, now is able to go back in time to get annihilated with his younger self, this leading to, again no evil senator being able to come back in time Hmm Better not think to hard trying to make actual sense of this movie. Just enjoy it for what it is. Jean-Claude Van Damme in a mullet! How can you go wrong??:)

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                                jeffleroo — 20 years ago(September 03, 2005 02:08 AM)

                                This isn't a flaw.
                                Several times in the movie there is talk about the other cases that the TEC are currently working on. One which comes to mind is them talking about someone going back and "buying up Beverly Hills for chump change." The plot easily suggests that there are more time machines out there and that criminals are trying to use them to change the future, but the TEC is successfully stopping them. No flaw.

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                                  ThrowingChicken — 15 years ago(September 21, 2010 09:33 AM)

                                  But the movie also states there are only two time machines, and they act surprised that the senator has access to one of them. Why are they not surprised by all of the other time travelers?

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                                    aseddon130 — 20 years ago(September 06, 2005 06:37 AM)

                                    I know it's redundant to point out paradoxes in a time-travel flick, (I have, to date, not seen one without them)
                                    See Back To The Future thats near perfect imo!

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                                      Mac-59 — 20 years ago(September 24, 2005 05:31 AM)

                                      Back to the Future is the best time travel movie I've seen but it's far from perfect.
                                      For one, how is it that McFly's body starts to fade out in pieces inside of just disappearing all together when it seems that his future isn't going to happen?
                                      And when he does return to the future after his dad stands up to Biff, his family's lifestyles have changed but they still live in that crapola house.
                                      Also, i think that if you go back in time and meet your dad, even the tiniest interaction with him will eradicate you instantaneously. George may eventually hook up with Marty's mom and have a son but it wouldn't be Marty anymore. The instant of conception where that particular sperm cell fertilizes the egg is a one in a billion shot. Even the slightest interuption from Marty would cause a change reaction affecting the exact moment when the "Marty" sperm got to the egg.
                                      I think if you went back in time 100 years ago and even said "hi" to someone, the fabric of time, trillions of interwoven strands of actions and thoughts would cause exponential alterations maybe even leading to the deletion of the time traveller himself.
                                      I think the movie that gets time travel as accuratly as possible is The Butterfly Effect.Even though he doesn't literally travel through time, he does affect the past.

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                                        therach1025 — 20 years ago(January 08, 2006 02:27 AM)

                                        Oh man, I was trying to explain that sperm theory to my sister and it was tough getting her to understand. I told her it was like a jar full of marbles (or half full so they can move) being shaken and spilled repeatedly and expecting the same one to fall out first each time you refill and shake. However the egg of the woman would likely be the same. I also noticed that "fading Marty" phenomenon. Either he's born or he's not. There's no inbetween. He either exists or he doesn't.
                                        I should see The Butterfly Effect but my aversion to Ashton Kutcher prevents me from doing so.
                                        Timecop is so full of flaws I could barely stand watching it. Plus, it's a really really bad movie.

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                                          gregforttmags — 20 years ago(January 20, 2006 03:04 PM)

                                          Most time travel stories are nonsense and highly convoluted. If timetravel was discovered, it would be far too dangerous to implement, half of humanity would be erased if you went back in time and the Milky Way would implode into a time vortex.

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