You don't see that too often anymore without muslim activists groups complaining about discrimination. Its no longer PC
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tabdenver2 — 14 years ago(October 31, 2011 07:56 AM)
(It's funny how it was fine to portray Muslims as terrorists attacking Americans (in America) BEFORE it actually happened. Now that it's happened, it's "wrong" to do it in movies. Sounds a little backwards, no?)
No, actually it is not. They never seem to portray Americans as meddling in foreign countries interests in order to gain something for themselves, like a US backed stooge in government. That would be representative of foreign policy would it not? Just concentrate on the bad that others do and forget your own crimes.
(I agree Luke, there's too much poltical correctness today. You can't do anything without people bitching about it)
I don't think it comes under the banner of pc gone mad, does birth of a nation? the chinese character in Breakfast at Tiffany's is that also pc gone mad?
Lets pretend for a minute YOU are the ethnic minority, in a majority of whites where they control the media and say how bad ALL your people are, and there are usually no one to counter balance these statements. Is that PC or the truth? -
LukeLovesFilm28 — 14 years ago(November 01, 2011 03:08 AM)
LOL. Jesus. You use Mickey Rooney's horrible, over-the-top, comedic Chinese performance in Breakfast at Tiffany's as your defense? That's all you've got?
Then, Cameron was insulting Mexican people by casting a white Jewish woman to play Vasquez in Aliens.
In fact, almost every Western film before Sergio Leone is insulting to every Native American. Because they used white people to portray the Native Americans, instead of actual Native Americans.
RIGHT??
Well, here's the rub. Aziz is played by an actual Muslim. He's not actually out of character. So what is exactly wrong with the image of Muslim or Islamic terrorists Cameron portrays in True Lies? If you understood anything about Al Quaeda or its leaders, you'd understand that the organization is full of every nationality in the Middle East. They all happen to be Muslims. Does that mean all Muslims are bad? NO! Anyone with half a brain and some common sense should be able to understand that being Muslim, doesn't automatically make you a terrorist. SOOO I'm still really lost as to why you people are having such a conniption fit over this MOVIE. You're all acting like Al Quaeda doesn't exist. -
Trevio3000 — 14 years ago(November 03, 2011 05:34 PM)
Once again, Luke misses the point of the argument. The point is not that Mickey Rooney played a Chinese man but that he portrayed him offensively. That the character itself was offensively racist. If a Chinese actor played that role in the same manner, it would still be offensive. That was the point.
Plus, Art Malik is not a practicing Muslim. His parents were. He was raised in the faith. But he does not practice. But you assumed he did. Why is that? Is it that he looks like a Muslim? The olive skin? Is that why? No, your assumption could not have come from his ethnicity. I'm being silly. -
club-shred — 14 years ago(March 21, 2012 09:10 AM)
Oh my God!!! Cry my some rivers who cares if a movie is not PC? I loved True Lies and tough shat if it offends some "groups". Hey, guess what don't like that depiction - take it to your group and tell THEM to change. Good lord I am so sick of over-sensitivity anymore.
"Loser! Idiot! Wimp! Degnerate! SSSSSSSSSLUT!!!!" -
howtragic — 13 years ago(April 17, 2012 08:51 AM)
Um, I have not seen this film in years, but when I saw it I remember thinking of it as satire. In other words, the Islamic "terrorists" were over-the-top and absurd because the movie was sort of spoofing Hollywood action movies that take themselves seriously. I thought the movie was very tongue-in-cheek and that it was clear that none of the characters were supposed to be taken at face value.
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shellshock-6 — 13 years ago(January 05, 2013 02:34 AM)
(It's funny how it was fine to portray Muslims as terrorists attacking Americans (in America) BEFORE it actually happened. Now that it's happened, it's "wrong" to do it in movies. Sounds a little backwards, no?)
No, actually it is not. They never seem to portray Americans as meddling in foreign countries interests in order to gain something for themselves, like a US backed stooge in government. That would be representative of foreign policy would it not? Just concentrate on the bad that others do and forget your own crimes.
(I agree Luke, there's too much poltical correctness today. You can't do anything without people bitching about it)
I don't think it comes under the banner of pc gone mad, does birth of a nation? the chinese character in Breakfast at Tiffany's is that also pc gone mad?
Lets pretend for a minute YOU are the ethnic minority, in a majority of whites where they control the media and say how bad ALL your people are, and there are usually no one to counter balance these statements. Is that PC or the truth?
That's one of the most insanely delusional posts ever written. Movies never portray Americans as the bad guys? Ultra Leftist Hollywood, seriously? This guy's only two examples are a century and a half-century old, respectively.
How sad is it that some people force themselves to ignore reality and replace it with a fantasy that not only is inaccurate, but a gross contradiction that's 100% the opposite of the truth. Just so someone out there will think they're a victim and give them attention. Is being a victim really THAT much fun? -
Flying-DeLorean — 11 years ago(February 26, 2015 09:58 PM)
"How sad is it that some people force themselves to ignore reality and replace it with a fantasy that not only is inaccurate, but a gross contradiction that's 100% the opposite of the truth."
You just described the Republican Party, right there. -
smoko — 11 years ago(September 27, 2014 02:10 AM)
@tabdenver2
They never seem to portray Americans as meddling in foreign countries interests in order to gain something for themselves
You obviously weren't paying attention to Salim Abu Aziz's speech about the Persian Gulf.
Anyways, why do you expect America (or any country) to criticize itself? Let other countries make movies about how America's foreign policy sucks. -
Lokisgodhi — 10 years ago(July 30, 2015 12:40 AM)
How fkng stupid are you? This film was made in late 1993 or early 1994 after Islamics bombed the World Trade Center on February 26th 1993 and killed six people and wounded over a thousand others.
DeAd_MiKe_187 wrote:
It's funny how it was fine to portray Muslims as terrorists attacking Americans (in America) BEFORE it actually happened. Now that it's happened, it's "wrong" to do it in movies. Sounds a little backwards, no? -
falcon2484 — 13 years ago(June 06, 2012 01:03 PM)
I'm just curious if this pre-9/11 film got accused of the negative portrayal of muslims as terrorists?
Oh, you bet it did. This movie has about three or four small-type, single-spaced pages in Jack Shaheen's pre-9/11 book
Reel Bad Arabs: How Hollywood Vilifies a People
, which details offensive Muslim and Arab stereotypes in many, many Hollywood films.
True Lies
,
The Delta Force
,
Executive Decision
,
The Siege
and Walt Disney's
Aladdin
all earn a place on Shaheen's "Worst List."
Check out this video on YouTube:
, but pay no attention to the "Zionist conspiracy" description.
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lexicron — 13 years ago(June 30, 2012 04:46 PM)
Look at movies like The Last Kiss Goodknight (which was pre 9/11) which had some government organization framing some poor muslim guy. YOu see it real life too. The Fort Hood shooting wasn't a 'workplace' indicident.
It's one of the reasons movies aren't as good anymore. They are too afraid to offend certain people. -
howtragic — 13 years ago(September 28, 2012 10:54 AM)
Hello.this movie was tongue-in-cheek.
Everything about it was a spoof. The high speed "horse chase" scenethe ripped "Ahnold" with a flame-throwerthe spies infiltrating a Swiss chaletthe over-the-top terroriststhe "hot" wife just waiting to come out. It was all A JOKE. The whole movie was a goof. It was silly people! Anyone who is offended by this does not get the joke! It was satire making fun of Hollywood action movies; it was just done in a low-key way.
I mean, come on, Tom Arnold is a top CIA agent (omega sector, excuse me)???
People who are offended by the way Muslims are portrayed by Hollywood should absolutely LOVE this movie. I do not get the hate at all.
What scares me is that it is obvious a lot of people did not get that this movie was supposed to be satirical.