Was Michelle the original wolf that bit Jack? (SPOILERS!)
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The_White_Hotel — 17 years ago(March 27, 2009 01:38 PM)
Definitely not. There's nothing to suggest that she is, plus, when Nicholson's character turns into a wolf for real (as opposed to a wolf man), there's no turning back. He doesn't become human again, so there's no reason to think that Pfieffer's character would change between the two. Also, the Indian mystic who Nicholson visits tells him something to the effect of "some people are so wild that they do not need to be bitten, the demon wolf is already within them". This line must have significance to one of the characters, otherwise it wouldn't be in the movie. It must be intended to relate to Pfieffer's transformation at the end as she is the only character in the film who becomes a werewolf without being bitten.
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The_White_Hotel — 16 years ago(April 09, 2009 09:06 AM)
"The man Jack goes to for help says that even the act of making love to a werewolf is enough"
I haven't seen this film in a while, but I really don't think he says that.
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artistathome — 16 years ago(July 04, 2009 09:26 AM)
You are wacky if you are saying just because she is "wild" she is turning into a wolf. There was nothing to indicate she was wild. She seemed docile. I also wondered if she was the original wolf. but I wondered that at the beginning and decided NO her character was too horrified over Jack's behavior.
Obviously, their intimate contact caused it. We are talking about exchange of salivathat alone could do it, since it occurred at night, but sex would probably do it too.
however I think she got scratched or bitten by James Spader. Question is how did he become a wolf? -
The_White_Hotel — 16 years ago(July 20, 2009 04:23 PM)
"You are wacky if you are saying just because she is "wild" she is turning into a wolf. There was nothing to indicate she was wild. She seemed docile."
"Wild" is perhaps the wrong way of putting it (I think he says a person's "passion" or something similar would do it), but that's the explanation, she had it naturally within her to turn into a wolf, she is an example of what the Indian doctor was talking about when he said not all people need to be bitten to turn.
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dragon_x — 16 years ago(October 25, 2009 11:00 AM)
You are wacky if you are saying just because she is "wild" she is turning into a wolf. There was nothing to indicate she was wild. She seemed docile. I also wondered if she was the original wolf. but I wondered that at the beginning
So there is nothing to indicate Laura was "wild" or a wild child or a wild animal? She was definitely wild. She is a blue blood - and old family with lots of money, so she has to act a certain way. Clearly in her younger years she was wild - because she got to know the "criminal elements of society" as she put it. Since her family expects her to act a certain way she may rebel against this strict and stuffy upbringing and get into all sorts of trouble. bad relationships, trouble with the law, jail time etc. And I'm sure she could also hide her wild side when she wanted to. Girls even women are great at that.
Her brother was wild
Her dad looked like he could rip Stewart's (Spader) face off - if he wanted to.
Wolves do fight for dominance in the packs. Males fight for the alpha male spot and iirc - females fight for the alpha female spot. So maybe she was afraid, since he could kill her, even if she was some sort of 'wolf' or wild child?
And MAYBE werewolves kill lesser/weaker wolves (unless they are already part of an established family/pack) and the better were wolves probably retain enough intelligence to plan and strategize.
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rhps_boy — 16 years ago(April 10, 2009 12:39 AM)
It was also said, "not all people who are bitten change to the wolf. An analogue of the wolf." I think during there hook up, she transferred the curse of the wolf. Also, said:
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jwarren2001 — 16 years ago(April 30, 2009 02:40 AM)
Bingo. "The passion of the wolf is enough." I think it's pretty safe to infer that Laura was "infected" by Will during their night of passion. Also, it's unlikely that Laura was the original wolf that bit Will, otherwise the horses should have been afraid of her (a predator) as they were of Will after he was bitten.
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Jetfire59 — 16 years ago(February 01, 2010 12:36 AM)
Jwarren2001 & riveroserik, You got it. She was given the "wolf essence" or whatever you call it when she had sex with Will. No way was she the wolf that bit him. She was way too freaked out by what the cop told her about the canine DNA they found in Mrs. Randall's wounds. When she goes back to the car and he comes up behind her, she is very jumpy. Had she been the wolf who bit him, she wouldn't have been.
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aquascenes83 — 16 years ago(April 10, 2009 03:26 PM)
Yeah, thats how i remember it. Pretty sure Spader bites her in the last scene of the movie when they are fighting eachother in the horse stable. She turns into a full wolf a lot quicker than Jack's transformation though so its kinda weird. It's on now so ill have to look for that.
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DSo1976 — 13 years ago(March 18, 2013 06:38 PM)
^^^^^^^^^
This!!!! What are all you people talking about with the transference of the wolf essence through sex? It was very clear that James Spader bit/scratched her.
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