Xena and Gabrielle = Platonic Soulmates?
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Darth_Charizard — 10 years ago(August 06, 2015 01:01 AM)
Whoops. Said Cinderella, meant Sleeping Beauty, but not sure how to edit posts from the mobile app. Anyone want to argue that Prince Philip and Aurora were just subtext?
Mostly joking- but I do wonder how many people would argue this if Gabrielle were Gabriel. Maybe the same split, if we try and guess based on the X-files? -
gmoxie — 10 years ago(November 02, 2015 04:51 PM)
I agree. When I watched this the first time years ago, it never occurred to me that they were anything more than very devoted good friends.
As I now rewatch with older eyes, I am actually looking for evidence that their relationship was sexual because of what I have read on message boards. Well, I continue to think both were heterosexual and that they had a platonic relationship with each other. That said, I can see how people could interpret that both were bisexual, by assuming certain friendly actions (like sleeping together on a cold night - I thought of it being more like sisters) led to something that could not be shown on the TV screen at the time. So I'm not saying that interpretation is incorrect maybe the intention was there. I remember an episode where there were 3 naked Gabrielles but even though the males were very interested, Xena did not seem at all aroused by it.
I did think there was possibly a sexual relationship between Xena and Lao Ma? The scenes seemed to have an erotic feel, but maybe those scenes were meant to be more mystical - I'm not sure. -
averagejoeman2013 — 10 years ago(November 02, 2015 07:29 PM)
Agree with you. Nothing more; it was a fan creation. It was sort of like when people began creating stories/theories about the Karate Kid movie with Mr Miyagi and Daniel.
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brighterthanmusic — 9 years ago(June 23, 2016 11:09 AM)
Xena's relationship with Marcus was lustful and loving, nothing like with Gabrielle. I feel like they are platonic soulmates who are meant by the gods to be together as a well balanced team to do things they could never do apart. Like sisters in a way, but more than that since they seem to be closer to each other than they are with their own families.
I think the bisexual/lesbian subtext stuff was more of a fan service kind of deal that came in the later seasons a little bit where the people making the show were playing with their well established characters by putting them in situations that might imply sexuality for those fans who wanted to see that kind of stuff. In the first season there is literally no sexuality implied at all -
Meushell — 9 years ago(June 23, 2016 10:49 PM)
If I may ask an honest question Do you feel about that way with Xena/Gabrielle specifically, or do you apply that whenever someone doesn't like a same sex couple?
The reason I ask is because I have seen the argument for "If you don't ship (insert couple here), you are a homophobe." I found it to a weak argument that really just implies that television same sex couples are supposed to be shipped because they are same sex couple. The weird thing though, is that I've only seen this argument for fan-preferred couples. Fan-made or canon, I don't agree with that statement though. Everyone is going to have a different opinion on a any fictional couple, same-sex or not.
Xena and Gabrielle are a different situation. They dropped hints, suggestionsanvilsabout a romantic/sexual relationship between them, but they never really came out and said it (at least as they were Gab and Xena, they got married in another lifetime after all). While other ships are basically Like It/Don't Like It/Don't Care, for Xena and Gab, that leads to See It/Don't See It/Don't Care.
Anyway, just curious.Captain Rex: In my book, experience outranks everything.
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JebusCripes — 9 years ago(June 24, 2016 04:47 AM)
Xena/Gabrielle specific.
I know fandoms will take any two same sex good looking characters with a friendship and declare their gay and cry homophobia when someone disagrees
But it is bit different with Xena and Gabby. Lawless said the character was gay, the characters have declared their love for each other, Xena has read a romantic poem from Sappho written for Gabrielle, they've shared non-platonic kiss (if you want to tell me the kiss in The Quest was platonic then you'll have to explain why the censors had to hide the actual kiss behind Auto), they got together when their souls were reincarnated.
But homophobic Xena fans (which is weird like saying racist Empire fans it seems like an oxymoron) -
Meushell — 9 years ago(June 25, 2016 03:47 PM)
Ok. Was mostly just curious. As I mentioned, their relationship on TV is different. If the reboot happens, I hope we can see the relationship as it is. No hiding for censorship.
As for homophobic Xena fans, sadly that's going to happen. I've found that every show seems to have a few fans that are homophobic, sexist, racist, etc.Captain Rex: In my book, experience outranks everything.
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JebusCripes — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 12:31 PM)
True, sisters often kiss each other on the lips.
And lines like "If I only had 30 seconds to live this is how I want to live themlooking into your eyes."
They're gay, champ. You don't have to like it but it reeks of denial. Straight girls don't act like that.