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Lawless wants the Xena character in the reboot to be black and lesbian

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    Ryden123 — 9 years ago(August 28, 2016 11:53 AM)

    more likely to invest whatever time it they feel is necessary to make sure they've got the concept as well-developed as they can get it
    I agree. Javier Grillo Marxuach has finished the script and consulted NBC and Rob Tapert, and the went back to make changes. I imagine he must of done this a few times. Perfecting it.

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      Ryden123 — 9 years ago(August 28, 2016 12:11 PM)

      I have no problem with this.
      Here is an interesting article about Africans in Ancient Greek art.
      http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/afrg/hd_afrg.htm
      A couple more articles:
      Did the ancient Greeks get their ideas from the Africans?
      http://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/greek-philosophers-african-tribes.htm
      5 Ancient Black Civilizations That Were Not in Africa
      http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/04/16/5-ancient-black-civilizations-africa/
      The are many other articles on this subject. Just look up:
      greece africa ancient history
      So Lucy's idea is quite plausible and doable.

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        Meushell — 9 years ago(August 29, 2016 07:52 PM)

        "But Lawless is the first to suggest the lead role should be reimagined as an African-American."
        LOL at the "American" bit. Whoops.

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          xenario_13 — 9 years ago(August 31, 2016 07:58 PM)

          African, African-American, and black are not the same thing. Black is a more general term that can refer to a lot of different people, but African or African-American is very specific.

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            Meushell — 9 years ago(September 01, 2016 07:07 AM)

            I have no idea why you felt the need to explain this to me. The entire point of my post is laughing at the article's use of the term "African American" when such a term makes no sense in Ancient Greece. I didn't think I would have to explain why that was funny.

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              xenario_13 — 9 years ago(September 01, 2016 10:03 PM)

              If you were smarter you would have realized that I was not explaining anything to you, but elaborating on what you said.

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                Meushell — 9 years ago(September 01, 2016 11:04 PM)

                Then say so. I can't read your mind. A reply to someone is usually just that, unless the person says otherwise or made a mistake.

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                  averagejoeman2013 — 9 years ago(September 01, 2016 12:23 PM)

                  Haven't we learned anything from the Ghost-busters' remake? The original was a good spin-off with some appeal earlier on but the further it gets from the successful formula with more of a stupid agenda it portrays will only guarantee its failure.
                  Stay tuned for the documentary: "From Wheaties to Fruit Loopsthe Bruce Jenner story"

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                    JebusCripes — 9 years ago(September 04, 2016 10:03 AM)

                    So what if a black actress just happened to be the best one for the role? Would you still complain?

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                      averagejoeman2013 — 9 years ago(September 06, 2016 06:40 AM)

                      As long as it was done for her being the right actress who could carry the role, sure 🙂
                      But making a change for change's sake or making a statement (hence my Ghostbusters reference) is messing with a successful recipe; why fix what isn't broken?
                      Why do you ask?
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                        MariMcCabe — 9 years ago(September 09, 2016 09:16 AM)

                        The best actress for Xena is still Lucy Lawless.
                        I'm still praying this reboot is cancelled. It would be cool concept if this was a sequel with the original actors reprising their roles but actresses over the age of 40 scare people evidently.

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                          Meushell — 9 years ago(September 09, 2016 01:16 PM)

                          Why would you pray for it canceled? People are obviously looking forward to it. Just don't watch it. A sequel isn't going to happen. As far as I know, the actors have no interest in reprising their roles.

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                            ioph586 — 9 years ago(September 09, 2016 04:33 PM)

                            With Xena tho race is incidental. She dosent really have to be Greek she just ended up there. Our Xena traveled this one can too.

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                              Meushell — 9 years ago(September 10, 2016 03:11 PM)

                              Well, her having a home town in Greece was important.
                              Of course, her family could have traveled before she was born or while she was young. That could have inspired her travels as an adult.

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                                ioph586 — 9 years ago(September 10, 2016 04:34 PM)

                                Yeah, and Marcus was black and presumably Greek as he went to the Greek underworld.

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                                  monstermayhem32 — 9 years ago(September 10, 2016 07:29 PM)

                                  I would rather see a xena continuation of the show instead

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                                    uber_geek — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 12:59 PM)

                                    I don't think race is the issue. But what does she mean, "make her lesbian" as if her character wasn't? Xena and Gabrielle were turned into heroes for the LGBT community when their characters were clearly heterosexual in the beginning. Now days you can't have people who remain close friends without having some sexual connection. I'm tired of shows pushing this.
                                    This would fail and fail badly.

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                                      JebusCripes — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 01:20 PM)

                                      How were they clearly hererosexual from the beginning? Because showing interest in men can't mean they like women too? Because Gabrielle in the first episode didn't throw herself at Xena or anythingoh wait she did!
                                      Of all the fandoms you would think Xena's fandom would
                                      be one of the less homophobic/biphobic ones guess not

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                                        Akira-Takahashi — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 11:53 AM)

                                        The creators meant for the characters to be straight in the beginning. They didn't start playing around with the idea that they weren't until they realized that the lesbian community really latched onto them as a couple. Because, you know, the whole tomboys-are-all-lesbians stereotype
                                        What LL probably means is that the character should be written with a homosexual intent in mind from the beginning, not shoe-horned in and never stated outright later on because of fandom.

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                                          shoshonehuey — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 07:05 PM)

                                          This reboot is truly a terrible idea. They need to leave the classics alone.
                                          As for the lead being a black woman, I am all for black female visbility. I just don't think this is the right role for that. Maybe Gabrielle could be black but I just always picture Xena as a white woman. I am a black female myself and I just think this reboot is desperate and unecessary.

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