Do you have any Tobacco?..
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Brasil123 — 12 years ago(April 28, 2013 07:49 AM)
there is a thing known as intuition which allows you to draw meaning from something, let's say a film, without having to isolate and give meaning to countless symbols and plot devices.
I'm not saying film analysis doesn't have its place, but if the film flows well, and it gives you a certain feeling, and you really do feel like there are deep, important questions being asked, I think it can be a masterpiece without looking much beyond the surface.
What the previous poster may have meant by saying it does not have to be read into, is that giving everything one static, specific meaning may close your mind to various different, equally valid interpretations of the film.
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pathfinder616 — 10 years ago(February 03, 2016 06:12 PM)
Tyler, after my first viewing i thought it was an existential film but i kept asking myself questions about lines delivered and symbolism in almost every scene. so i looked online and found several examples of the most amazing analysis which puts to rest your theory that this film is essentially meaningless.
read this paper and tell me if you still feel the same: http://www.jcrt.org/archives/03.2/lee.shtml
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pathfinder616 — 10 years ago(February 03, 2016 06:13 PM)
Tyler, after my first viewing i thought it was an existential film but i kept asking myself questions about lines delivered and symbolism in almost every scene. so i looked online and found several examples of the most amazing analysis which puts to rest your theory that this film is essentially meaningless.
read this paper and tell me if you still feel the same: http://www.jcrt.org/archives/03.2/lee.shtml
We deal in lead, friend. -
jluis1984 — 19 years ago(September 07, 2006 10:16 AM)
I thought it symbolized Blake's status as a "foreigner". Basically everyone in the film's "Wild West" smoked or carried tobacco in some way. That's why at the end he gives tobacco to Nobody, because he was finally part of the world.
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freesharon — 19 years ago(September 21, 2006 12:26 PM)
I haven't watched it in a while but I thought that he was already a dead man (with a wound he couldn't survive) and Nobody was trying to help him find the right moment to cross over. The tobacco was ritually and symbolically important.
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texagander — 19 years ago(February 08, 2007 07:44 PM)
Aside from anything that the tobacco probably symbolized, the tobacco line was also to set up a pretty funny joke.
Willian Blake, at a point of frustration, tells Nobody hes has not understood a word he has said since the beginning. Nobody follows with the rejoinder, "Are you
sure
you don't have any tobacco?" William Blake doesn't get the joke (which is Nobody's assuming the prior requests for tobacco were not understood, as well); and; he just continues to explain how he doesn't smoke.
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freesharon — 19 years ago(February 13, 2007 07:17 AM)
Good catch. Nobody really is a funny guy. I guess I'm ready to look this board over for new interpretations and then see the movie again. Want to add that this is the most respectful board I've found for any movie, actor, director, or writer. That alone indicates to me something profound about the value (or values) of the movie.
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aviva00 — 18 years ago(June 25, 2007 05:56 PM)
It was mentioned that tobacco is a sacred plant, but the line is used for foreshadowing and humour.
Its not obvious on first viewing to some people that he's on his Journey so when Nobody asks him for tombacco, they think he wants a smoke We "whities" may make that mistake when we first see the film The irony, and the humour is that Nobody doesn't want a smoke - he's collecting it for the offering to guide the boat safely to the spirit world. The repetition makes it funny. -
nxgn_not_not — 9 years ago(April 07, 2016 12:14 PM)
he wanted to sell nobody dis-eased blankets
he was a pseudo-rel-ligious
representation of what the takers
did 2 those that would not pay taxes
4 shur
so 2 sell him sum tom-back-key
wood go agin' everything he stood 4
as a hater
Hate is the key 2 the "Doc Ock" character
as ill-lust-trated by the pen in the hand
as 2 the thread
pour Moi
sum Tum-Bacc-Key
is so so so nyo the Resin in "WaterWorld"
the distant dream of a hoppier time
but that's jus' moi
Gelebt haben. Zu sterben, um wieder zu leben.