Hateful propaganda movie
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AntiSpielbergForce — 17 years ago(December 29, 2008 11:43 PM)
This movie is completely hateful propaganda against whites. Of course, the victim is a liberal woman, with "Multicultural Los Angeles" as one of her political slogans. Would the governor be seen as an innocent victim if he had been a Republican white male with "Stop illegal immigration" as his slogan? Hardly.
Every villain in the movie is Anglo-Saxon - Walken, the governor's husband, his old friend, the security chief, the guard with the metal detector. Arguably the only exception to this is "Miss Jones", whom with that name is certainly not passed off as being anything but Anglo-Saxon anyway.
On the other hand, of the "good guys" who help Watson, not one is Anglo-Saxon - The shoe-shiner, the assistant, the busboy, the cleaning lady, and the bodyguard who heroically takes a bullet for the governor - all multicultural heroes who unite against evil blond and blue-eyed tyranny.
Coincidences? A few too many, don't you think?
This is nothing new, of course, this pattern (white = evil, non-white = good) is visible in most movies these days. -
silverbullets — 17 years ago(December 29, 2008 11:59 PM)
EhI don't know about this. I'm sorry you saw it that way. It just happens to be that in that part of L.A., those are the people you will see doing those jobs; just how it is. You just don't see a "blond blue eyed" guy shining shoes or cleaning hotel rooms there. I'm not white, and not for one moment did I think, "So true, all the evil people are whites! All the good people are non-whites!" Not sure how this could be called "hateful" or even close to 'propaganda.'
And btw, the gov was supposedly a moderate who had "brought Republicans and Democrats together" and was likely to have been a Republican based on the info given in the story. True, her enemies accused her of 'going liberal,' but last time I checked, it wasn't a typical 'liberal' talking point to rant about taking prayer out of public school.
Think we can safely say she was still running with the same party. If anything, it made the party look more diverse than you're saying. -
The_After_Movie_Diner — 17 years ago(December 30, 2008 05:09 PM)
You should watch 24 (Which loosely based its first season on this film). Plenty of dubious ethnic stereotypes as villains in that show, although of course they did have a good black president as well oh shucks kinda spoils it.. but if you can look past that then you should enjoy a show where a white guy carrying a gun gets to run around Los Angeles blowing up and gunning down lots of 'middle easterners' and in the 3rd season even hispanics
by the way I am being sarcastic. I hate people like you. You're a hateful propagandist. This movie was just a good by-the-book against-the-clock thriller.
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Guamley — 17 years ago(February 13, 2009 09:05 PM)
Coincidences? A few too many, don't you think?
Yes I do think it was a bit much not to have been done by design.
Welcome to P.C. Hollywood where Gay is good, Straight bad. Black good, White bad.
Lazy, unemployed welfare Queens good, hard working successful people bad.
Immorality good, Godfearing play by the rules bad.
Unfortunatly, Hollywood is a microcosm of the Country and we're coming to a point of no return. -
Riff98 — 17 years ago(February 23, 2009 06:25 AM)
Guamley,
I couldn't agree wth you more about P.C. Hollywood. It's a freakin joke. We've become a country of entitlement and that is why we are going down. Too many people think they "deserve" the world but refuse to work for it. Taxes of 50% or higher are coming to this country and Socialism is already here.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the father but through me." John 14:6 -
MovieAlien — 17 years ago(March 17, 2009 07:25 AM)
Also, this isn't too correct either:
of the "good guys" who help Watson, not one is Anglo-Saxon
Unless you missed the scene where the (obviously) Anglo Saxon janitor with the mop helps Watson switch places with the bellboy. -
RomaVictorrrr — 16 years ago(August 12, 2009 02:50 PM)
Hateful? i wouldn't go that far. Just a playful little 90-minute thriller
BUt of course there was a HUGE liberal slant to this movie. yes, the bad guys were mostly white and wealthy (and cheap, Mr. Smith couldn't even leave a tip while MR. Watson gave him a 20) and the good guys were blue-collar underdogs. and the hero was the white guy who could fight the Republican conspirators and save the moderate woman. Funny. It wasn't about race, only class and politics
Since i'm not so threatened by liberal socialist agendas or vast right-wing conspiracies (they're both parts of the same silent tyranny, i think), i could still enjoy the movie, which was silly fun.
I'll make gravy out of your little girl, just to season that Irish beep meat
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showa48 — 14 years ago(January 30, 2012 02:38 AM)
I've seen some moronic posts on these boards but yours? You pitiful pool of slime - get a life!
Now now now - eeasy now.
While his motives might be questionable, his observations are mostly correct.
-The secutiry officers who were in on the assasination were whites, while Carlos - who took a bullet - was mexican/latin american.
-Same goes for the governor's "handler" the old guy as well as for her husbond.
-Most of the people helping him were black (the not-so-deaf veteran) or otherwise non-white.
Even for someone like me, not living in USA, it was quite noticeable.
-The OP might have racist motives or not. An equally interesting question goes for the director and the producers of the movies; which motives do
they
have for distributing the roles and actors as they did?!
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the_la_baker — 12 years ago(August 01, 2013 01:18 PM)
First and foremost, you are reading way too far into this rather shallow film. Its an entertaining and kinda silly thriller, Not a political hit piece.
Second, white-man has acted as a proverbial devil in almost every encounter with non-whites throughout history. So even if you were correct that this movie is portraying whites in a negative light(you aren't), the movie would still be accurate.