Character Flaw
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar
The-Infestation — 16 years ago(August 22, 2009 10:15 AM)
The characters are not people, they are extended jokes. Since when do Drag Queens remain in Drag all the time. Those are transvestites. Drag is meant to be an outfit, a get-up in which the man remains plainly and obviously, still a man.
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The-Infestation — 16 years ago(August 23, 2009 11:17 PM)
There wouldn't be a movie in which drag queens remain in drag for it's entirety. Yes, pattyanne1000, that is quite obvious. They could, you know, maybe change the theme to transvestites or transsexuals or perhaps just gay men? I mean it's such a ridiculous plot hole for a movie centered around the topic that it's almost laughable. Actually, it is laughable. This movie should have never been made; the only view into alternative lifestyles provided is completely sexist.
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fireyrose — 16 years ago(September 15, 2009 06:24 PM)
The characters themselves are not PLOTS so how can they be plot holes? Sexist is "Knocked up," "To Wong foo" isn't sexist. The only reason that you're here trying DESPERATELY to criticise this movie is because you hate one of the main actors, so the only thing laughable here is you. You're extremely transparent. With the vast array of TERRIBLE movies and actors that you enjoy, you don't exactly have much room to talk about what good acting is. Anyone that thinks that Clint "I play the same part in every lousy movie I'm in" Eastwood is even a GOOD actor needs a reality check. You're also a POS to actually be CELEBRATING a man's death. Grow the beep up, uneducated child.
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The-Infestation — 16 years ago(September 15, 2009 09:26 PM)
First, it IS a plot hole for the characters to be regarded as females, despite being drag queens. As previously stated, drag is a costume to be worn out for a night, a get up, nothing more. While men dress up in drag, they still visibly remain men, and not women. That is the very definition of a plot hole inherent in the movie's storyline. Second, the movie is completely and, obviously, sexist. The characters come to this small town and teach the wife-abusing men how to show respect by beating them up and solve all the women's problems by giving them self-esteem inducing makeovers. Men are villains and get violence; women are victims and get pampering. And, of course, the gays earn the right to be "fabulous." Nothing could possibly be more sexist. And lastly, third, when did I say Clint was a good actor? I largely disliked Gran Torino, stating only that Eastwood was okay in relation to the other pathetic performances in the movie.
Also, I'd love for you to point out which of my movies are 'terrible?'
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NovaIncognito — 13 years ago(January 19, 2013 03:28 AM)
Dude, you are justthis has to be my shortest and rudest post, but for someone like you I'll make an exception..you are simply just an idiot.
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NovaIncognito — 13 years ago(February 25, 2013 07:12 AM)
Wow, are you slow. This was part of the joke, part of the movie..the idea that these "middle american, small dust bowl town folk" didn't know much about drag queens, etc., and if they saw one, might not even consider it. That was part of the joke. And the fact that most viewers actually thought Leguizamo was a female, and had no idea it was him until they saw the credits or looked it up on the computer shows you that the only one that was super obvioulsy a man was Snipes, but again, that was part of the joke. Sorry you didn't get it, but people like you don't. You're just way too full of yourself, thinking you are some kind of intellectual, and professional movie critic, because of said self-believed intellect, to just chill, suspend disbelief, and enjoy a damn funny movie. You take yourself too seriously, which is not only obvious, but also a large understatement.
Now, as far as your statement "while men dress up in drag, they still visibly remain men, and not women" goes, I don't think anyone knows what the hell you are trying to say. That they dress up in drag but don't put make-up on, shave their legs, create fake cleavage and actually try to look like women, but still "visibly remain men?" If that's what you mean, well, that right there is enough to discredit everything else you've written.
If you are simply complaining that they stayed in drag throughout the movie, I pretty much agree with what another poster posted, with some additional thought. It makes sense that maybe they were stay in drag as they were treating this as some kind of "drag crusade" in going to the "drag queen of America" pageant, and on top of that, trying to "teach" Chi-Chi had to "be a drag queen" The other part of it is the fact that it was a vital part of the humor involved, with a lot of the histerical lines and references that you are probably too unknowledgeable to catch. If they weren't in drag the entire time, how funny would the movie be?
Your problem is, like I said before: you take yourself too seriously and you think too much of yourself. I dont see how people like you watch movies at all when you are so highly involved in critiquing them than rather just suspending disbelief for awhile and trying to just enjoy the damn movie. Geez.
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zyggums — 13 years ago(August 12, 2012 03:01 PM)
I thought They were in drag for the trip to claim their prize as reigning drag queen it was a uniform for their voyage which would be like 3 days. like when miss america wears her sash on tour.
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hilljayne — 12 years ago(May 07, 2013 01:12 PM)
They just wanted to drive across country in dragjust having fun. It's really not a big deal. They arrive in town as women so they have to keep dressing as women in order to avoid any, what they fear, prejudice.
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susan_mj — 12 years ago(August 24, 2013 07:14 PM)
Drag queens remain in drag all the time when they're gay men who feel more comfortable as women than as men. They were all obviously more than just drag queens, they liked men, they referred to themselves as fairies, etc etc. I know many gay men who dress as women ALL the time, who refuse to dress in anything less than overly feminine, but when they're in drag queen mode they go ALL out.
You said "Drag is meant to be an outfit, a get-up in which the man remains plainly and obviously, still a man. " You're thinking 'old school' drag or just men in drag, a drag QUEEN is exactly as it's portrayed in the movie.