Burt's Gun?
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chrzoc — 20 years ago(October 11, 2005 02:52 PM)
The M82A1 .50BMG they use in the series is a modelgun, the likes of which is available from modelguns.co.uk for around 600USD. And the rifle in aftershocks was a LAR.
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JamesMalone — 21 years ago(July 24, 2004 04:34 PM)
No, it's a real rifle.
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mister12 — 19 years ago(May 17, 2006 05:37 PM)
Michael Gros is a big anti Second Amnedment nutjob( means no guns for civilians)
He does not think that citizens should be trusted with firearms and wants to ban them,but uses guns in movies to support his lifestyle with no qualms.
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john_latham_meyer — 21 years ago(July 24, 2004 06:49 PM)
Is it a real gun? Yes in fact some one earlier has already supplied us with a link to the manufacturer's website
Okay was the .50 BMG (browning machine gun) round developed for anti tank use? Nope the .50 BMG was developed for heavy machine guns (the m1919A1 or the M2- ma duece) It was used heavily in aircraft during WWII, and is still in service with the US military, such as the M2 on tanks and APCs, or with special forces snipers in the form of the Barret m82. It was never intended as an anti-tank weapon, however there was a 14mm (.50 inches being about 12.7mm) anti tank rifle in use by the russians during WWII that was later developed into a heavy machine gun so it is most likely that the writers of the film got their cartridge facts mixed up!
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garbagemanatee — 19 years ago(June 21, 2006 08:58 PM)
Actually you're wrong.
The .50 BMG was developed as an anti-tank round.
In WW1 Tanks were not as "armored" as they later became. The US Government asked John Browning to design an anti-tank machine gun.(If you read a history book, you would know tanks were deployed en masse the same as infantry during WW1).
Browning just took his M1918 .30 cal machine gun design and upscaled it for the new .50 BMG round. However, The First World War ended before the M1919 (aka M2, Ma-Deuce etc etc.) was completed. (Firearms arn't made in an afternoon ya know).
In addition, there were several somewhat unique designs for single shot anti-tank rifles that did see action, by all sides. Some of these used rounds similar to the .50 BMG. -
marsodyssey2010 — 20 years ago(June 04, 2005 02:48 AM)
I don't know exactly what the model ws, but I think that they are now banned in California.
Apparently one has more stopping power at a range of two football pitches than a magnum has at 2 inches.
I also heard that during the waco siege the cult members used one to blast through the armor plating on a bradle fighting vehicle.
That is some serious firepower, but all the versions that I've seen had a different magazine.
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john_latham_meyer — 20 years ago(August 04, 2005 03:04 AM)
the recoil on my Enfield Jungle Carbine in .303 Brit can shatter your shoulder if you hold it wrong! (I have the bruises from my most recent range trip)
The rifle Burt uses is a powerful one and will destroy a car's engine at a 1/4 mile and they're now illegal in califas (sadly my home state)
As for the nutbags at waco havin' one I never heard about it, but wouldn't suprise me although the FBI doesn't use Bradley Fighting Vehicles
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u-s-a-ownz — 20 years ago(August 09, 2005 09:50 PM)
Hehe. That Jungle Carbine seems pretty tame to me. Though it is a kicker, probably coming from the fact that is so light, it does kick more than say the regular No. 4 Mk I or II. Glad to see you collect military surplus guns though. I am too in California, probably moving to AZ to be able to buy more guns.
As for that BMG thing, it was originally intended to be an anti-tank round, but armour got thicker as time went on, so, it ended being an anti-air gun. -
dolganthedwarf — 20 years ago(September 14, 2005 06:21 AM)
The .50 cal was not made for anti tank duties, it was designed for the "Browning M-2 machine gun, in use since immediately after World War I"
http://www.olive-drab.com/od_firearms_ammo_50cal.php
Its main role since then has been secondary armament on fighting vehicles,anti materials(disableing machinery such as vehicles and cannons), sniping and E.O.D work. -
martycthomas — 14 years ago(November 05, 2011 09:31 PM)
He Said During WW I When John Browning was Asked to Design a Rifle Round to Stop a Tank. The Tanks in WW I Did NOT Have The ARMOR That the Tanks In WW II Did! You should Try to Pay Attention before Mis Quoting & Scolding Others!
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martycthomas — 14 years ago(February 01, 2012 08:24 AM)
The F.B.I. "Borrowed" all of those Armored Vehicles from the Army at Fort Hood, Kileen, Texas. That was the same place where the A.T.F. had built a Mt.Carmel Building/Mockup to practice their Raid on. The whole thing was the A.T.F. Showboating to try & get a Larger Budget. It was Totally Unecessary. The Local Sheriff, an Andy Griffith type had sent for the Wacko from Waco to come to His Office several times before that. He'd always show up in a Day or Two. They could have done the same thing there, & then Served their Search Warrant with Koresh in Custody. No Drama, No Shooting the place up, no Murder of 21 Kids that Janet Incenireno was there to "Save" from the Evil Koresh. Well, She sure did Save them. Suffocated in a Bus below ground, breathing Superheated Posion Gases from the Fire. No wonder some of them were Shot in the Head at Close Range, nothing more than a CoupDeGras, aka BlowOfMercy, just to save them from the Horror of Dieing from the Fire! So far not one of those Law Enforcement types has ever been Punished for Waco. Not one. Too bad McVeigh didn't take the Slow Approach & hunt them down one at a time over 10 or 20 Years. That would have been the right way to go. Not blowing up a Building that was occupied by People that had nothing to do with Waco. How come the A.T.F. & the F.B.I. were all Absent that Day? Yeah, it just gets curiouser & curiouser? (SIC Deliberate). Wrong is wrong, & that was a total Violation of the Civil Rights of all those Cult Members. So I guess we have New Rules that say it's O.K. to Burn Little Cult Kids Alive! Then came the Show Trial for the Few that had Survived. They couldn't even chew gum in the Court, but the Law Enforcement could? Well we do enjoy our Petty Torments, now don't we! The Local Christian Churches also wanted nothing to do with helping any of the Survivors. Nothing from them for the Survivors, or their Families either. That seems wrong to Me. No Religious, or Southern Hospitality! Just More HATE! How Very Nice!
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OshKosh_B-got — 20 years ago(February 04, 2006 05:32 PM)
The big fifties such as the LAR Grizzly and the Barrett only kick about as much as a twelve gauge. The recoil is abated by their massive size/weight and that grapefruit sized muzzle brake that deflects spent gasses rearward in order to pull the rifle forward and negate the effects of recoil. I personally own a .303 Enfield and have shot the Jungle model and the recoil is nowhere near the level of shattering a shoulder. If you want to feel what a real gun kicks like, drop both hammers of a 4 bore at once. That's when you see shoulders start to shatter.
http://www.corbins.com/images/gatl-5a.jpg
Also, there is a bullet larger than a .50BMG that does not benefit from such implements as recoil reduction. It is called the .700 H&H Nitro Express from Holland and Holland. It is a $100 bullet fired through a $200,000 rifle, expressely built as a last resort weapon against charging elephants; or, for those that feel the need to shoot the most powerful production hunting rifle.
And, if you're a psycho, one of the most powerful elephant rounds in production is available in a handy revolver frame.
http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/photos/weapons_fireams/pfieferzeliska600nerevolverace.png
