Predicatble twist.
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firemagefm — 9 years ago(May 08, 2016 01:43 PM)
That is the twist, yes, I got you. The guy I was replying to there was just being kind of a non-sensible d*ck though. I understand that the OP seemed to think the movie got ruined when it really didn't.
Like I replied just below this - it was really easy to figure out that Kevin Spacey was the bad guy early on for me, but I didn't pick up at all about it being random names and gibberish from objects in the room. And I still liked the movie a lot even if I was thinking that Kevin Spacey was spewing (some) nonsense as the bad guy the entire time. -
firemagefm — 9 years ago(May 07, 2016 11:11 PM)
I did. Just watched it tonight and I figured out that Kevin Spacey was the mastermind within about 30 minutes. (And it wasn't because I just assume Kevin Spacey to be evil like some people mention in the thread.)
By that point, you basically knew everybody of the main group was dead except for him, which was already a really fishy thing. He's getting off scot-free almost from the get-go, which would seem like something easy for the mastermind to worm himself into. He doesn't show much emotion for most of the movie; only when he is "startled" in a few rare instances. He was also entirely "new" to the group of criminals, while the 4 others somewhat knew each other in different ways - which seemed convenient for Keyser (and even one of the four calls this out while in the holding area, even if half-jokingly). And of course, knowing the movie was told almost entirely by him, I expected a lot of lies or at least misdirection.
All of the above basically went through my mind in like 30ish minutes, maybe a bit over, and I called that he'd be it. That didn't mean that I "knew" it was Kevin Spacey. It was just my guess based on what I had seen, though it turned out that I was right! Though of course I didn't know stuff like him referencing random things off of the bulletin board.
However, I still enjoyed the movie a lot and thought it was well-directed, with many good performances and great style. -
kipcarson37 — 9 years ago(July 29, 2016 07:48 PM)
I kind of agree with this. I mean, when did you watch it? If you saw it at a young age, or before seeing movies with twists a lot, like FIGHT CLUB or PRIMAL FEAR or THE 6TH SENSE, then the twist probably works a lot better as a SURPRISE.
To me, I think the best twist movies are ones where if you remove the twist ending, the film is still awesome and has a satisfying ending. Movies that rely too much on the twist.eh. THE USUAL SUSPECTS falls into the second category.
That link is to my video review of the movie where I talk a bit more about the impact of the film AND the twist ending, if you're interested. -
Stratego — 9 years ago(August 21, 2016 06:36 PM)
To me, I think the best twist movies are ones where if you remove the twist ending, the film is still awesome and has a satisfying ending.
Meh, if you can easily remove the twist, then it's pretty pointless to begin with and it just seems tacked on to have a shocking ending. The whole point of a twist is to put a different perspective on the whole movie. You mention Fight Club, The Sixth Sense and Primal Fear, but they essentially work the same as The Usual Suspects. -
kunal_onfire — 9 years ago(August 21, 2016 01:27 AM)
To me, the question that 'Kuzan' asked 'Verbal': 'Do you believe in Kyser Soze?' was a dead give away. I was 99% sure of it already and every minute of the movie started increasing my suspicion and it eventually became 100% when it was supposedly finally revealed!!
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gory_reer — 9 years ago(September 05, 2016 11:47 PM)
I was very fortunate when I first saw this movie. I thought it had probably been spoiled for me due to hearing "it's got a big twist involving Kevin Spacey" prior to viewing luckily I had never seen Spacey nor Gabriel Byrne in anything! As he's more of a handsome leading man type and seems the pack leader throughout the story I assumed Byrne was Spacey (the name with more reputation) and spent so much of the duration puzzled as to how a dead man was gonna cause a huge shock ending.
It's not often I'm pleased with myself for making the wrong assumption I actually got to enjoy an extra little twist- "Ah, so THAT's Kevin Spacey".
(Anyone who hears in advance that the film is a twister and/or has seen certain other reputable Spacey performances before this one really shouldn't hold it against the film if they figure things out ahead of time). -
myvarinka — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 03:49 PM)
What a bunch of ignorant, show off w****rs, who can't see beyond anything that happened in your tiny short lives. Get some perspective about films of the past, including long past if you are true film lovers who want to see original ideas when they first happened and try to use your brains that things weren't always the way they are in the small sample of films you've seen.
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The Kraken — 1 year ago(July 26, 2024 12:51 AM)
I never saw the twist coming.
However, I did get suspicious during the raid on the ship. Something about it felt all wrong. Verbal was narrating the story. Also when Verbal (Keyser) didn't want any police protection even though he said that he was scared of Soze.
But watching the movie again knowing the twist, I see that he was Soze all along cuz of his behavior was totally guilty and you could tell that he was lying his ass off. But it was so subtle that it is easy to miss the first time.
It's an excellent movie storytelling.