So, if Soze wanted to keep his identity a secret…..(SPOILERS)
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drystyx — 10 years ago(April 15, 2015 12:08 PM)
I still think the only way any of it makes any sense is that the Kaiser story is just a story, and that the character really is the Devil, with the real story being how five humans (including the lady lawyer) felt they were more capable than the Devil of doing what he did, and the Devil took umbrage at that, and purposely humiliated them before killing them and making them the least powerful, lowest on the totem pole, in Hell.
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Stealth_Cobra — 10 years ago(October 27, 2015 11:46 PM)
That's the part I don't get about this so called "brillant story". Why does verbal have immunity again ?
For a story that's supposed to be coherent, unless I'm missing something, why would he get immunity ? What possibily did he offer to the cops to grant him "immunity" ? Did he turn himself in with the money or something ?
There was this huge shootout / drug deal where everyone died, and only verbal made it out alive. He does a testimony in which he doesn't mention Soze, and apparently doesn't really give the DEA the full picture, as he's adding alot of details at the last minute, during the before bail interrogation. He also keeps repeating he's "not a rat", hinting that he didn't rat anyone during his so called testimony ? Why would the DEA cut him an immunity deal if he doesn't at the very least provided them with info to catch a bigger fish ?
So why would he get immunity, then, if he didn't rat anyone and didn't provide anything helpful to the investigation ? He's the only alive witness to a crime he was directly involved in, and he fails to provide the police any information that would qualify as "key info". He's not the "usual suspect", he's the "Only remaining suspect" in this story, and giving your only suspect "immunity" makes no sense, especially when he himself admits he was involved in the boat heist that got so many people killed.
Just because the director keeps reminding us he has "immunity" doesn't make it more logical. He was directly involved in the boat heist, a heist where everyone involved was killed ? I really don't see what he could have provided that would grant him "immunity". Are we supposed to believe he got immunity simply because he has fake cerebral palsy ?
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Stratego — 10 years ago(October 28, 2015 08:28 AM)
That's the part I don't get about this so called "brillant story". Why does verbal have immunity again ?
For a story that's supposed to be coherent, unless I'm missing something, why would he get immunity ? What possibily did he offer to the cops to grant him "immunity" ? Did he turn himself in with the money or something
It's explicitly mentioned in the movie that he's protected from up high by "the prince of darkness". The mayor himself called the DA to pressure him into giving him a plea deal. And he's the only witness, so there's more reason to agree with that.
Why would the DEA cut him an immunity deal if he doesn't at the very least provided them with info to catch a bigger fish ?
The deal with the DA was made before Kujan showed up. Before that, there was no indication of a bigger fish or a rat, just a dope deal gone wrong. Without Verbal they had no idea what had happened, with his testimony they could close the case. And yes, because of his cerebal palsy, his testimony appeared to make sense.. -
Stratego — 10 years ago(December 04, 2015 05:29 PM)
did Kujan ask him why the reaction and why and what he left out of his testament to the DA?
He does actually ask why he left Soze out and Verbal explains that his story about Soze is so full of holes that the DA wouldn't have given him immunity.
Earlier in the movie Kujan also asks Verbal what he left out in his statement to the DA, right before he starts telling about Redfoot and Kobayashi. So Kujan already knew he wasn't telling the whole truth. -
Zombie55 — 10 years ago(December 06, 2015 02:14 PM)
But did he also ask why he exclaimed the "Oh beep term after Soze was mentioned, something like - "Hey, why are you so tense all of a sudden, you sure know something, tell me right now."
And did Kujan do anything when he realized he wasn't telling the whole truth? -
Stratego — 10 years ago(December 06, 2015 02:43 PM)
But did he also ask why he exclaimed the "Oh beep term after Soze was mentioned, something like - "Hey, why are you so tense all of a sudden, you sure know something, tell me right now."
Kujan didn't need to ask why he said that, because the reason was clear to him. When he found out about the Soze connection, he knew for certain Verbal was hiding something. Verbal said "Oh fnck!" because he knew that Kujan was now aware he was lying and he had to fess up.
And did Kujan do anything when he realized he wasn't telling the whole truth?
What do you mean? Kujan mentioned several times that he knew Verbal wasn't telling the whole truth.