Ok, I know all about the "innocent until proven guilty" and "everyone deserves a fair trial" stuff, so spare the lecture
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taylorje — 14 years ago(September 16, 2011 08:03 AM)
Reminds me of a movie called "Final Justice" starring Annette O'Toole. She plays a woman who kidnaps the defense attorney who got her brother's killer off. She forces him, at gunpoint, to get into a dog kennel in the back of her SUV. He says "I really don't do my best work in kennels." The movie is not a comedy, just that I think this scene is hilarious.
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Catnip86 — 11 years ago(December 25, 2014 09:28 AM)
Yes, I hate it too.
A criminal chooses to attack an innocent person who fights back. Criminal is arrested, but both need to go to the hospital.
Criminal now has right to health care because he was arrested for the crime he chose to commit. Criminal does not pay one cent for heath care. Care is paid for by law-abiding people.
Victim, however, does not have the right. Victim has to pay for every cent of his own health care, or do without it. -
Catnip86 — 11 years ago(December 28, 2014 08:30 AM)
Unfortunately, that's not how it is. Bleeding hearts decided that since "we" are "keeping the poor dears locked up" (just because they raped, murdered, etc) they should have rights no law-abiding person has.
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GIRobotII — 10 years ago(December 04, 2015 10:49 AM)
Believe me, OP and everybody else here, I hate the system too. But defense attorneys are important when it comes to innocence and guilt in a courtroom. Even if they'd personally just as soon have nothing to do with an accused, they have to do their job and represent them to the best of their ability. Objectivity must take the place of subjectivity (personal biases, emotions, etc), no matter what the case is about. How that woman felt about Doob personally was beside the point. She probably was revolted by him. Nevertheless, she had to defend him to the best of her ability, regardless of any personal feelings toward him. Just like a doctor has to treat a patient the best they can, no matter who it is. Hippocratic oath. If it wasn't for defense attorneys, innocent people would be punished unjustly. Just as guilt must be exposed and punished, innocence at the same time must be protected.
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crakatoot — 9 years ago(December 10, 2016 06:43 AM)
That's the problem with this movie. Rarely do people exist that are just pure evil. Most crimes are committed do to desperation, drug addiction, mental illness and other mitigating factors. The idea that this guy is just pure evil and killing him is completely justified is nonsense. It makes us, the audience feel better but it's not reality.
i told you not to stop, now lets go - Apocalypse Now -
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Catnip86 — 9 years ago(December 10, 2016 08:55 AM)
Yeah, because everyone rapes and murders. Oh, wait. Well, everyone steals because they are too lazy to work. Oh, wait.
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Catnip86 — 9 years ago(December 10, 2016 12:02 PM)
That people who commit crimes (especially ones like rape and murder) should not be coddled and should be punished for what they do. Not get away with it, and not have more rights than the victims.
And for the purpose of the movie, it did work. Dobb raped and murdered again after getting away with the first one (that he was caught for). After being killed, we have a 100% guarantee he will never do it again. -
JP X — 3 years ago(February 13, 2023 12:30 AM)
That's right, crakatoot. Vigilantism is never condonable in the end. Better to have a flawed system than none at all. At least with it, one is offered a chance to tell their side. It must work for literally EVERY individual, or we might as well have none. Whether it be Mother Teresa or John Wayne Gacy. Does it need improvement? Who wouldn't agree it needs it. Direly so. With vigilantism, where would one draw the line? If we allowed people to take their own deadly corrective measures to avenge murder, you think it'd stop there? Not on your life. Soon, people would be killing people over the most ridiculous reasons. To the original poster, I understand where you're coming from. I do. But that's not those people's (DeNillo, the defense attorney, the judge, Angel, etc.) fault. It's simply the type of system they have to work with. No doubt they despise the hell out of it. But again, better than no system at all.