why the Mike Yanagita scene is critical.
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Fargo
TxMike — 9 years ago(October 18, 2016 07:40 AM)
This comes up periodically and old responses get purged so I figured I'd re-post it so everyone will understand.
Many think the scene where Marge meets old high school friend Mike Yanagita is unnecessary. Some mention that TV broadcasts of the movie cut that scene. But it is a critical scene in the overall story. Here's why.
Mike knew Marge in high school and contacted her after he saw her on TV news broadcasts of the murders. The scene with Mike came after her first visit to the car dealership, where Jerry assured her he would know if any cars were missing, and she went away content.
After her meeting with Mike, where he told her he was successful, had been married to Linda Cooksey, etc. she spoke to another old friend from high school who basically told her everything Mike said was a lie. As she is driving away, in her car, you see the flash of realization on her face, she was being too trusting, Mike had lied to her and maybe Jerry was lying too. So that realization caused her to go back to see Jerry, to press the issue about the Tan Cierra, and ultimately resulted in Jerry fleeing the interview, the beginning of her cracking the case.
Presumably if she had not encountered Mike she would not have suspected Jerry was lying to her face and the case might not have been solved. Or at least would not have been resolved the way we see it in the movie.
It is part of the "good vs evil" theme in the whole story. Where Marge lived and worked people were straightforward and honest, when she encountered Jerry then Mike she assumed, incorrectly, that each of them were being straightforward and honest. It was an "aha" moment for Marge that influenced her investigation of the case.
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EonNomad — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 08:19 PM)
Thank you very much for this explanation! Just saw the movie and was curious about why the scene(story bit) with Mike was there. I loved the first season of the Fargo show and enjoyed the second one so it was about time that I saw this!
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RobbieCalifornia — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 12:37 PM)
Oh absolutely! The film and the two seasons of the tv show are must-see. Anxiously awaiting season three.
I've seen the movie many times and never questioned why they included the Yanagita scene. Just thought it was part of the weirdness. Marge was so smart and Jerry so fidgety, she was onto him pretty quickly.
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tsheehan-86345 — 9 years ago(November 07, 2016 07:49 PM)
Great explanation, truly! I think the scene may be a little too subtle. If cut out it is just a simple, albeit far less intersting, revelation she has. I guess I wouldn't call the scene critical. Even if it didn't have this purpose I would still be happy for it to be there because it is so well done.
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DeepFriedJello — 9 years ago(November 23, 2016 12:33 AM)
Have seen this movie many times, and always liked the scene with Mike as it was just Quirky (Japanese guy speaking Scandinavian. ya jeez). But just tonight on TV that scene was missing, too bad. It's not necessary, but is fun.
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Mandingo609 — 9 years ago(December 02, 2016 11:32 AM)
I agree. Now, if you could explain the "C'mongimme a signal" scene where the pancake dude was staring at Jean and Carl in that weird homicidal way, I'd appreciate it. My theory is, that was the point when he decided he would kill them both and take the ransom for himself.
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janet-conant — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 04:40 PM)
Thanks TxMike.
I always wondered the same thing what was up with Mike Yanagita scene crying and calling her a super lady. Now I know.
By the way Pancakes Dude, Peter Stormare, was in Longmire and played an equally troubling character with the strangest accent ever. -
Saltpeter — 9 years ago(December 11, 2016 07:35 AM)
The problem with all this is, Marge should have known Jerry was lying the first time she met him. He was acting nervous, fidgety, impatient, evasive; clearly lying about something, clearly hiding something. She's supposed to be a trained, seasoned, experienced police officer, so how could she not have noticed his suspicious behavior?
She certainly didn't need to experience something later with someone else in order for the light bulb to go off in her brain about Jerry's behavior.
Not that I minded the Mike Yanagita scene; to me it was typical of the Coen Brothers' quirkiness. But I don't find it plausible that it was necessary to make her wake up.
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Luke_was_a_terrorist — 9 years ago(December 20, 2016 06:49 PM)
It's so sad that after 20 years, this post still needs to be written.
I will never understand how people did not understand the significance(which the OP is spot on about)
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Mandingo609 — 9 years ago(December 21, 2016 10:30 AM)
You're assuming that most people commenting here seen this film during it's theatrical run. How do you know that the people commenting here didn't just discover this film after the popularity of the TV series?
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FearlessOneDay — 9 years ago(December 25, 2016 08:25 PM)
Thanks for your explanation. I think the screenplay could easily have made the connection between Mike's b.s. and Jerry's b.s. more concrete. For example, Margie could have said something to herself in the car, "Margie, you're gullible." Or "Margie, you're too trusting." That's all it would have taken for viewers to NOT think the Mike scene was unnecessary. Because frankly, I've seen the movie several times and like many other viewers, I didn't make the connection. She's in the car eating a sandwich from Hardees.and then she's re-interviewing Jerry? And the Mike scene is so strangely amusing that you think the Coen Bros just slipped it In for comic relief. (The only thing funnier would be a Somali immigrant saying, "Okie Dokey.")
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TxMike — 9 years ago(December 26, 2016 06:21 AM)
"She's in the car eating a sandwich from Hardees.and then she's re-interviewing Jerry? "
I get your point, and that would have been unequivocal, but they chose to make it more subtle. If you are paying close attention to Marge you see her body language and facial expressions that make the connection more subtly. And because so many miss that connection I started this thread.
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SealedCargo — 6 years ago(May 19, 2019 05:07 PM)
it's also important because it's brilliant, and its the kind of thing that happens in a Coens movie, and it gives a little bit of the old Coens weirdness within what's a really good movie but still their most mainstream
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TheFearmakers — 5 years ago(October 26, 2020 11:06 AM)
for a Coen Brothers movie a bizarre scene like this is not only necessary, it's completely normal, in their world, and one of the best scenes in the movie
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sim7396 — 4 years ago(January 16, 2022 10:40 AM)
Thank you TxMike, much appreciated!
I'm really sick and tired of TV networks and basic cable channels censoring and mutilating movies and TV shows. The first time I saw Fargo was on one of those channels. They cut the Mike Yanagita scene but not all of the related lines, so it looked like bad editing. Actually, the movie editing was perfect, it was some greedy TV merchant who cut a portion of the movie to sell more commercials or because they thought the scene was "non-essential."
Today I saw the movie again on Amazon Prime. Not only the picture quality was better, it was also uncensored and uncut.
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