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Was Cushman's dad racist? Or just greedy?

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    avalanche222 — 16 years ago(April 07, 2009 10:20 PM)

    your post is a seriously flawed interpretation of nearly every scene you mention past the 2nd sentence.

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      avalanche222 — 16 years ago(April 07, 2009 08:34 PM)

      to quote someone else on this forum; you really wear your insecurities on your sleeve. "out-of-left-field-slur", lol, get over yourself.
      You're right, the line does add a "new dimension". It went over your head apparently:
      http://www.imdb.com/board/10116695/board/thread/96516448?d=135048922&p=2#135048922
      http://www.imdb.com/board/10116695/board/thread/96516448?d=126840182&p=2#126840182

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        mossysgiants — 12 years ago(June 05, 2013 05:41 AM)

        Saying someone is black, when clearly they are, is not racist. It has nothing to do with being racist. If someone has ginger hair and you describe them as having ginger hair, is that discriminatery? No, it's just a description!

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          kylopod — 12 years ago(June 05, 2013 06:39 AM)

          Saying someone is black, when clearly they are, is not racist.
          It depends on the context. If the person's race is relevant to the conversation, that's one thing. But just bringing up a person's race out of the blue while criticizing or dismissing them, when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand, is a way of implying there's something wrong with the person's race.

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            mossysgiants — 12 years ago(June 05, 2013 07:27 AM)

            Absolutley agree with the context point, but in the case of the scripture in the film "the black fella", for me, not racist.

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              kylopod — 12 years ago(June 05, 2013 12:45 PM)

              Then why did he mention the guy's race? How was it in any way relevant to what they were discussing?

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                avalanche222 — 16 years ago(April 07, 2009 05:08 AM)

                Racist. DUH, goddammit
                don't beep try to rationalize the CLEAR, DIRECTORIAL, AND ACTING decision in the portrayal with "ohh, maybe he could get a better deal.." get over it

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                  pacinofan58 — 16 years ago(June 05, 2009 11:49 AM)

                  It had nothing to do with his father being a racist, it had to do with teams preferring to deal with one agent more than another. Cushmans dad wanted the kid to go first in the draft, and the team that they were pushing for, wanted to deal with the firm Maguire got canned from, rather than Maguire himself. It happens all the time. If you go to Fox Sports, you will see this very thing happening with the super agent Drew Rosenhaus. He has been fired by quite a few clients recently, who have had a problem settling their contract disputes, because Rosenhaus is very aggressive, and teams don't want to deal with him.so he has been let go by a bunch of athletes of late, for that reason!

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                    hnt_dnl — 16 years ago(July 05, 2009 11:00 AM)

                    It's an interesting question. I think that the "black fellow" statement, taken in context, was more that he was peeved that Jerry would dare to focus on anyone but his son, who was the biggest draft pick in years. Just a function of where he comes from and how he grew up that he made a statement like that.

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                        nkeres01 — 16 years ago(November 08, 2009 06:23 PM)

                        It is obviously a racist comment. Yes, there are other reasons the dad signed with Sugar but they are not relevant in this discussion.

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                            dhmason6155 — 16 years ago(February 01, 2010 07:28 AM)

                            What bothers me is that they replaced the word "colored fella" for "black fella". Political correctness at work again.
                            "I have to pee"
                            "There'll be plenty of time to pee in Heaven"
                            "There's peeing in Heaven?"

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                                  jane_bront — 12 years ago(April 10, 2013 07:52 PM)

                                  I still don't get it. It looked like Jerry spent a
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                                  of time with Cush that day with apparently no hint that anything is amiss from Mr. Cushman. He spends what looks like a half an hour, or hour tops, walking through the lobby with Tidwell and the next thing you know the man that said he didn't do contracts
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                                  a contract with Sugar who is an obvious slimeball. Why not tell Sugar 'I'll get back to you' and ask Jerry if he could definitely get Denver for Cush?
                                  ~"Chris, am I weird?"
                                  ~"Yeah, but so what? Everybody's weird."

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                                        angelprincess6879 — 15 years ago(January 21, 2011 11:51 PM)

                                        In my opinion, Matt (the father) was NEVER fully with Jerry. I kinda got the feeling he was playing both sides to see the best deal he could get and whoever got that for him and kissed all their asses enough was the one they'd go with. One reason I say that is when Jerry goes to the Cushman's house, Matt tells them that they decided if Jerry showed up they'd stay with him. Jerry gets excited and hugs him and then Frank walks in with this "Ummmmm dad, what's going on?? Why is Jerry here??" It was kinda like he had NO clue what his dad was talking about and just played along until Jerry left and then Matt filled him in.
                                        Real love is FOREVER!!!!

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