body pressed into the ground - spoilers
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hawkeye_74 — 17 years ago(September 16, 2008 06:32 PM)
SO yer saying that she was killed on the testing grounds and carried back to LA and placed in a body shaped hole??? YeahNO.. watch the movie againthe M.E. said she died where she was found.she was never moved there, they also stated that they could hardly pick her up out of the hole, she was that brokenthe plane from NEVADA could have been flying over LA or NYC or N. Orleans, just because she had a piece of glass in her foot does not mean she died on the testing groundsif she had been dropped on the testing grounds they would have found a whole lot more glass in her.
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DoctorStrangelove — 17 years ago(September 17, 2008 01:06 AM)
Whoops. I'm eating crow karma has gotten me back!
The movie came on again a few hours ago, and looks like you're right and
I was wrong.
Sorry about the curtness in my previous post! Allow me the indulgence of deleting it so nobody else feels the need to correct me.
I think I know what confused me the ME said she died where she was found, and AFTER his line they find the radioactive glass. I took that sequence of events to mean the ME's initial assessment was wrong (because the glass obviously came from somewhere else - the squad's attention to detail had showed him up) and the rest of the film was an exercise in discovering where she had died. I'd have shifted those lines around in the screenplay. Also, when I wrote my post, I'd also forgotten how far away from "civilization" the housing development was - and I'd not considered the possibility that Treat had picked up Jen in L.A. on the pretense of flying her to the base, throwing her out soon after takeoff (instead of tossing her out over the nuke site, like the attempt on Nolte & Chazz).
You're right of course about the glass. I feel stupid for thinking Treat had her cleaned up, after pushing her from the plane, but missing the one piece in her heel. Anyway, I still say the most interesting part of the case (the WHY of her murder) was given away in the beginning, at least twice, and that's a major reason the film wasn't as good as it could've been.
My humblest apologies
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gnome-5 — 16 years ago(October 04, 2009 04:25 PM)
"I think I know what confused me the ME said she died where she was found, and AFTER his line they find the radioactive glass. I took that sequence of events to mean the ME's initial assessment was wrong (because the glass obviously came from somewhere else - the squad's attention to detail had showed him up) and the rest of the film was an exercise in discovering where she had died. I'd have shifted those lines around in the screenplay."
I think those lines are in the right order. Finding the radioactive glass gives the plot a little twist. You're thinking maybe she was murdered because of her relationship with the general, and then you find out she somehow got access to restricted territory (the consequences of which the rest of the film deals with). Switching the lines would put that horse before the cart. -
eyescorp — 16 years ago(February 04, 2010 12:09 PM)
and I'd not considered the possibility that Treat had picked up Jen in L.A. on the pretense of flying her to the base, throwing her out soon after takeoff<<
I just watched it last night, and I understood from the General's description of his last weekend with her that she had been with the General at the base, and then when he flew to Washington (necessarily without her), she was flown back to LA (by Treat et al). There may have been a Tahoe trip in between, but I still understood that "Alison" would have had to be escorted back to LA by the military.
In other words, I thought her last flight was from the base TO LA, not from LA to the base. -
DoctorStrangelove — 17 years ago(September 17, 2008 01:08 AM)
Bruce, I was wrong. She DID die where she was found my bad. As for your original question, maybe the dirt had been softened up a good deal by the preparations for the new housing development?
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oolala53 — 14 years ago(August 21, 2011 09:40 PM)
Wouldn't her body have splattered apart to some degree? It just seems impossible that the skin would have held through the force of contact with the ground. But then we couldn't have had Hoover's reaction when she was turned over.
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Jefbecco-1 — 9 years ago(August 06, 2016 09:39 AM)
I'm a police officer. Going on sixteen years now. About thirteen years ago we had a parachutist fall to his death when his chute failed to open. He went face first into a plowed field. His face was pulverized. There was no way to recognize him from his face when comparing it to his driver license photo. She wouldn't have been so pretty, but I chalk it up to poetic license. Nolte's character needed to recognize her.