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  3. or whatever they are called? how the hell is that proof anyway. are they just receipts for the game? they could be anyon

or whatever they are called? how the hell is that proof anyway. are they just receipts for the game? they could be anyon

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    tecmosuperbowler — 13 years ago(March 11, 2013 02:42 AM)

    Something that always bothered me about this was that if I had been on that jury, I certainly would have wondered what was up with Brad Pitt not saying something at the very least like "you could have gone with any other two people" or something like that.

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      Quboid — 12 years ago(April 25, 2013 01:31 PM)

      I think Brad Pitt is too shocked by the stubs' appearance - his case, damaged by the disastrous character witness, had been destroyed just as he was twisting the knife in De Niro. He's visibly stunned and I think at that point, he realises that the defendants he had always assumed were guilty are actually innocent.
      (At least, this is how it appears to the jury!)

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        tom_digianvittorio — 12 years ago(July 08, 2013 07:38 AM)

        Defendents don't have to take the stand.

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          Mellow-Fellow — 11 years ago(March 02, 2015 10:46 AM)

          Well it's not a lot to ask is it? It was basketball, and they are ticket stubs. Since you jumped to football I just assumed you were from Europe, and therefore most likely stupid.

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            jejozi — 13 years ago(February 27, 2013 07:49 PM)

            You weren't paying attention, were you? First, they were basketball stubs. He just perjured himself saying he, a priest, John and Tommy were at the Knicks game at the time the murders were committed, thus giving them the alibi that got them acquitted.
            This will be the high point of my day; it's all downhill from here.

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              showtime321 — 12 years ago(April 16, 2013 02:23 PM)

              I'm surprised no one noticed that he got the tickets from the fat shop owner, he was given an envelope (the ticket stubs) along with the cigarettes and change from the store. He probably did not even go to the game.

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                aryanto — 12 years ago(September 08, 2013 10:22 AM)

                Showtime - i am glad some one actually watched the movie - great attention to detail my man.

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                  aryanto — 12 years ago(September 08, 2013 10:23 AM)

                  Showtime - i am glad some one actually watched the movie - great attention to detail my man.

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                    Mellow-Fellow — 11 years ago(March 02, 2015 10:50 AM)

                    You thought this so important to note that you click reply, go back and click reply another 2 times so that your comment shows up 3 times?

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                      mikke73 — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 11:27 PM)

                      You thought this so important that you had to write an actual whole post about it? You must be American, right? Because you certainly are stupid

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                        lmor7752 — 12 years ago(May 08, 2013 12:38 AM)

                        A priest said that they were with him and the stubs showed some proof that they were there, as did him talking about the game. To most people that is more than enough to create reasonable doubt let alone considering child molesters. There is no requirement for absolute proof on the part of the defense in murder/criminal trials.

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                          jaystarstar — 12 years ago(July 03, 2013 07:51 PM)

                          King Benny got the stubs he had connections with guys in ticket offices and he could probably get stubs from any game he wanted. So he had one of his boys pass the envelope to Fat Mancho at the party store who slipped it to Hoffman, who had a guy HE know leave them in the church for Father Bobby to pick up.
                          The stubs were a complete shock to Michael. He didn't know they were coming. He thought it would be enough that Father Bobby testified at all he didn't figure he would have actual physical evidence to support his story.
                          But it also means Father Bobby's lying is a little more intentional and planned-out than simply lying about the basketball game.

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                              jaystarstar — 12 years ago(August 08, 2013 11:09 PM)

                              Michael and Shakes knew full well that John and Tommy were street criminals, murderers, and would probably go down sooner or later for committing some crime that was out of their control.
                              All they wanted to do was to get payback on the Wilkinson's guards. With Nokes they got it when John and Tommy smoked him, Addison got whacked by Little Caesar's hit crew, Styler got sent to jail, Ferguson was discredited and ruined and probably sent to jail.
                              Once that was done it was up to all of them to go on and live their lives. John and Tommy dying at age 29 by violent means was not exactly surprising.

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                                ll-rr — 11 years ago(October 05, 2014 12:45 PM)

                                Right on, jaystarstar, the trial was Michael's, Brad Pitt's character, ultimate goal to get even with the correction guards by exposing them.

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                                  joseph-argenio-622-182606 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 05:40 AM)

                                  The football stumps were trees that were cut down to carve out the goalposts which clearly show the father is lying since he said he went to a basketball game not the football game where the boys beat the guards and Dustin Hoffmann should have asked him the question before Brad Pitt entered the tickets into evidence. See it was all a setup because the real killers were King Benny's thugs. The boys just imagined they killed Sean Noaks, due to the trama of their ordeal. I thought that was really clear in this movie.

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