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DreTam2000 — 19 years ago(October 28, 2006 05:27 PM)
There clearly seems to be a misunderstanding, and one I don't care to dive into with you. But I do want to comment on one thing.
The point of the trial WAS that they were from Africa. I'm not speaking of the aftermath. I'm speaking of this movie in particular. If it could be proven that the slaves were from Africa, then they would be freed. But if it wasn't possible to prove that the slaves were not from Cuba, then they would have been returned to their "owners" as "property."
That's really common knowledge as far as this film is concerned. Anyone who does not grasp this well you've missed the mark.
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Nomad08 — 19 years ago(October 29, 2006 03:46 PM)
thats pretty much what i saidum yea but the importance of this trial is the fact that it determined whether we would avoid going into a civil war or not. if they had been found to be given back to the spaniards, then the civil war might of been avoided.
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DreTam2000 — 19 years ago(October 29, 2006 04:37 PM)
I wasn't speaking of the importance of the trial. I was speaking of its purpose within this particular story. In reality, it's main importance was the provoking of the civil war.
if they had been found to be given back to the spaniards, then the civil war might of been avoided.
Well it doesn't matter because they were free men and they deserved to be sent back to their rightful homes. They weren't property. They were humans. Like Hopkins's character says if it leads to a Civil War, then it leads to a civil war. But these men are humans and their freedoms shouldn't be sacrificed just to spare a nation of hypocritical white men a civil war.
With any luck, the North and South would have killed eachother's populations off, and then the Native American population could have multiplied, and we wouldn't have the America of today. Too bad it didn't happen this way.
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Nomad08 — 19 years ago(November 02, 2006 03:43 PM)
what are you talking about? haha i think any historian would laugh at your ideasyou seriously have no idea what you're saying. the only reason they were found free was because slave-holding was illegal. please do some research!!!
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DreTam2000 — 19 years ago(November 02, 2006 04:01 PM)
My hypothetical, hostile "idea" obviously flew over your head. It was pure fiction, but my own fantasy. Just hope that time machines aren't invented some day..
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BoyFromOz — 19 years ago(February 10, 2007 03:26 PM)
My favorite scene would have to be when Baldwin is trying to explain to Cinque that the case has been appealed to the Supreme Court even though he had already told him that he was free, ending with Cinque's emotional breakdown, stripping off his clothes as he stands in front of the bonfire. What kind of place is this? Where you almost mean what you say? Where the laws almost work? How can you live like that?
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DreTam2000 — 22 years ago(January 15, 2004 12:58 PM)
that scene was funny too. But um, Mathew's character's name was Baldwin in the movie? Damn, I haven't seen it in a while. I must have forgot. I never really paid attention to his character's name, I guess.
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the_eagle — 21 years ago(September 08, 2004 12:17 PM)
The Bible interpretation scene with Cinque and another captive is quite moving, in my opinion one of the best scenes in the whole movie. It's been quite a few years since I saw the movie but I like the scene with Anthony Hopkins at his home with Morgan Freeman and Anthony Hopkins say's this line "whoever tells the best story wins" then later on in that scene he asks Morgan Freeman "Nooooo, what is THEIR story" meaning who are they as a people. Great movie, will become a classic in due time.
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Amyrlin — 22 years ago(March 09, 2004 12:36 PM)
I agree with thepoet26
that scene really made my stomach turnand I can't believe someone in my class laughed at thatI was so close to hitting them.
I had nightmares of that scene for days after watching it
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bryanac625 — 21 years ago(July 03, 2004 07:50 PM)
I loved the part where Cinque and the other African were looking at the pics in the Bible and the other guy understood the life and message of Jesus. That shows me that the Gospel can be understood by anyone!