In the scene where she's taking a shower and the Master Chief comes in.. Did I understand correctly its that's perfectl
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blackcarlover — 19 years ago(May 30, 2006 08:55 AM)
I mean, okay, so the Chief had a guy have timetables for her and them to shower seperately, but what I mean is vulnerability from an 'embarrassed he is seeing/saw her naked' point of view for her to quickly try and cover herself - certainly my view anyhow.
she does not fear him.
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tommykins-1 — 19 years ago(July 04, 2006 12:22 PM)
But wasn't the point of the scene that she couldn't show (by cringing or trying to cover herself with her hands) that she was afraid or embarrassed by the Chief's presence.
Of course she didn't like it, but showing weakness in this way would weaken her position and strengthen the position of people who felt that women were "too weak" to be a SEAL. The Chief knew this. He deliberately was trying to intimidate her and test her (again).
He could have waited until she came out of the shower with a towel. But he wouldn't have waited if it had been a male trainee, so (since she insisted on being treated like the other trainees, "no better and no worse"), he didn't (and shouldn't) show her that consideration.
She did her best to try and show that it didn't intimidate her, and was successful in holding her difficult position as "just another trainee."
For those of you how haven't gone through this type of selection training, it's impossible to complete the course without help and support from your fellow trainees. The course is set up that way. O'Neill knew this, and that's why she refused the "special consideration" and requested that she be allowed to go through the training "just like the other trainees."
When she convinced the other trainees (in SERE training) that she could take it, and convinced the instructors she could not only take it, but lead, she finally had gotten to the real position of "just another trainee."
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batgrlforever — 19 years ago(July 07, 2006 09:02 AM)
Good points Tommykins-1. I actually wondered about that scene too because I would have been wierded out.then again since it was Viggo then I wouldn't mind showing off the goods.
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tommykins-1 — 19 years ago(July 07, 2006 11:37 PM)
Yeah, he was charming, wasn't he. But it's nice to have a woman verify what I assumed (about his charisma as the Chief).
But in the real world, the Chief would just be some muscle-bound thug who was making your (her) life hell. That's what she had to deal with.
"Friends help you move. Real friends help you move
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whitespirit26 — 19 years ago(July 26, 2006 06:04 PM)
Cute as Viggo is, he had no right to show her that disrespect; there are other ways of "testing" trainees. If I were in her position, I would've tried to turn away from him without appearing "weak", but I wouldn't have showed off "the goods". If it wouldn't have gotten me kicked out of the military, I would have said something along the lines of "So is this how you get your sex gratification, by peeping at the trainees? I wonder if the men like that".
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bgreenfl — 19 years ago(August 21, 2006 01:17 PM)
I think tommykins-1 is right on the money - the chief was trying intimidation, and it didn't work.
A couple of "minor" points, that is, minor if you haven't been in the service! SEALS are navy personnel, not marines. In addition, - GI Joe is primarily slang for army types, so its distaff usage in the title is a misnomer. I'm sure the producers thought it was catchy, which is far more important than accuracy.