Another question
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vintage-13 — 13 years ago(February 17, 2013 09:19 PM)
What narration?? Maybe I saw a different version, but there is no narration at the end, only the very beginning.
In any case, there is a scene near the beginning (about 11 minutes in) between Marty and Mrs. Pascal, while Marty is tending to the fire. Marty makes a smart remark and his mother starts going off:
"Oh, now don't get snippy, Marty, you've been in this house exactly 37 seconds and you're already snippy, no wonder your father died young, he'd simply had it with all this snippiness! A person can die a slooow death by being snipped at year after year the way he said 'salad' when he meant 'solid! oh like you would not let it go, like a puppy with a rag doll-"
Marty looks up at her sternly and a little angry and interrupts:
"Daddy didn't die a slow death."
I took this to mean (after repeat viewings) that Marty not only knew about his father being shot, but was lying in the end during the last scene, to keep the secret, writing it off with his sisters' insanity.
The "you be him and I'll be her" thing, I figured isn't exclusive to John and Jackie, because Jackie didn't shoot Kennedy, but Jackie-O shoots Marty in their little game. I think they're also reenacting their parents. -
buffyMove — 10 years ago(June 01, 2015 01:09 PM)
The "you be him and I'll be her" thing, I figured isn't exclusive to John and Jackie, because Jackie didn't shoot Kennedy, but Jackie-O shoots Marty in their little game. I think they're also reenacting their parents.
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faux_paus — 20 years ago(May 28, 2005 10:41 PM)
I think what happened was on the day that Kennedy was killed, Jackie O went crazy and shot her father and her mother was the only one who knew about it. The brothers didn't know so her mother and her told Anthony and Marty that the father had left that day when in reality, they buried him outside in the back to cover up for Jackie O killing him.
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harmonica_dave — 20 years ago(August 25, 2005 04:14 PM)
the author of the play wendy macleod says that its up to every actor to make that choice. its a very subjective question. personally the way i interpret it is that she really was confused and psychotic but its anyones call, thats what makes art so great!
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jhj-5 — 19 years ago(June 18, 2006 10:49 AM)
My understanding of what happened.
Mr Pascal was leaving because his wife was always cheating. So Mrs Pascal killed him just before he could leave. This was coincidentally on the same day that Kennedy was shot. Mrs Pascal told Marty that his Father had left but Jackie knew what happened. That's why she confuses the two events. This may also have contributed to her instability and led to her relationship with her brother. -
juviejay — 19 years ago(July 30, 2006 10:42 AM)
Where do you get that she was cheating on him? Other than that I pretty much agree with you. The story about the air conditioner was a cover-up which Marty accepted. Anyway, it makes more sense if Mrs. Pascal killed Mr. Pascal. I think he was just going to leave her, maybe because she too was insane. Then Jackie, 20 years after the Kennedy assassination, completes the circle and kills Marty.
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jhj-5 — 19 years ago(August 01, 2006 11:28 PM)
During Mrs. Pascal's conversation with Lesly in the kitchen right after she arrived. She says that she didn't realize how important her husband was to her until after he was dead and something about liking any man who could find a new adjective to describe her. I can't remember it exactly off the top of my head, but I gathered from this that she fell for any man who came along.
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juviejay — 19 years ago(August 03, 2006 12:06 AM)
Ah, I missed that. But it's possible she killed him and then met these other men afterwords. What's Jackie going to do now that Marty's dead, never talk to another man? Maybe she (Mrs. Pascal) was searching for a replacement, someone who could fill the void of Mr. Pascal's absence, and any man who seemed slightly different or interesting caught her eye. Of course, this is only conjecture.
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jhj-5 — 19 years ago(August 07, 2006 02:15 AM)
Ya, possibly. But the way she says that she didn't realize her husband was important to her until after he was dead suggests to me that she was pre-occupied with something else before that - namely, the other men she mentions.
But he doesn't know where we keep it.
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juviejay — 19 years ago(August 08, 2006 12:33 AM)
Well, if you are right it kind of throws me off a bit because I would have thought that Jackie's relationship with Marty mirrored Mr. and Mrs. Pascal's relationship. And that he left (or was killed by her) because of her craziness/obsessivness. But maybe you're right, or maybe it's another part of the movie that is open to interpretation.
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criscodisco — 18 years ago(December 18, 2007 03:26 AM)
Yes, most definitely. I'm watching it now:
Mrs. Pascal: I had one great passion in my life. You know who that was?
Lesley: Your husband?
MP: My husband; precisely. I didn't know he was my one great passion until he was gone. Until he was gone, my one great passion was the man I met that night at a party, any man I met at a party who could use a new adjective to describe me. I really have no idea who my children belong to.
So, she was most definitely running around, although I guess that could be interpreted as either him leaving or being killed, so no progress there.