L.A confidential is probably the best of it's kind, yet Titanic was a milestone and was a film made by a true visionary.
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LukeLovesFilm28 — 11 years ago(December 15, 2014 09:32 AM)
No. Titanic is great in all of those departments as well. But, Cameron's talent as a visual storyteller is too far ahead of its time. People can't see the forest through the glamor.
Rest assured, Titanic totally deserves all of those Oscars and all of the other accolades it received.
Had Titanic not come out that year, yes, LA Confidential would have and should have won Best Picture. -
LennyDH — 11 years ago(February 17, 2015 09:02 AM)
"L A Confidential always finishes in a higher position than titanic"
Not on this list:
http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_all1000films_table.php
622 Titanic
761 LA Confidential
In fact, Titanic is regarded as the best American film of 1997 on that list -
thomas-begen-194-976045 — 11 years ago(February 01, 2015 08:57 PM)
With all due respect to "L.A. Confidential," which is one of my favorite films, something's wrong with anyone who dumps on "Titanic" as they have. "Titanic" is probably the most epic love story ever told and unable to be outdone; a story on Shakespeare's level.
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Gun_Murat_Ilban — 11 years ago(February 08, 2015 12:42 AM)
L.A Confidental was an entertaining film; but not exactly a strong contender against Titanic. I didn't really find L.A Confidental that impressive, it was a little cheesy and ordinary crime film. Well-acted, yes; the writing was also alright but nothing special.
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LennyDH — 11 years ago(February 17, 2015 10:11 AM)
If it also won acting and/or writing awards, it would have broken the record for most wins and then the film would have received even more backlash. So detractors (like you) should be glad it didn't get those, even though it deserved them as well (especially for acting)
Btw, you said LA Confidential is always in a higher position than Titanic which isn't true, as I've pointed in an earlier post. Titanic is placed 139 spots higher than LA Confidential on a list that's voted by over 3000 critics and filmmakers -
LennyDH — 11 years ago(February 17, 2015 10:49 AM)
It was in the running for two acting awards, so apparently the Academy thought highly of the acting as well
It's funny you ignore the list I came up with, but it's understandable though. LA Confidential fans were so sure it would come out on top against Titanic on every critics list, but alas -
LennyDH — 11 years ago(February 17, 2015 11:08 AM)
Kevin Spacey was nominated for lead actor at BAFTA, but I suppose he was pushed supporting for Oscar. Crowe and Pearce were pushed lead. All three didn't get an Oscar nom.
Titanic had one lead actor who received a Globe nom
Btw, I'm still waiting for your response on that list. -
LennyDH — 11 years ago(February 17, 2015 11:21 AM)
Yes, he voted as well. His ballot for Sight & Sound (2002) was taken into consideration.
Here are all the sources for that were considered (individual and miscellaneous lists):
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Bobby9976 — 10 years ago(May 06, 2015 07:32 AM)
As far as I'm concerned the romance in Titanic spoils it for me. I know WHY James Cameron did it, but I would have rather his story focussed on the true story of what happened.
There are some interesting comparisons between the fact and the fiction on this website:
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/67989947.html?thread=11797216699 -
steve-movies — 10 years ago(October 24, 2015 08:53 PM)
I cannot believe its been four years since I posted this! I completely forgot about this until I came back to this board.
He wanted to add some depth to Titanic I guess. It was his idea to throw in the romance so that way there was an actual plot. However, L.A Confidential is a mega-masterpiece.
Don't get me wrong - I can see why Cameron won. The direction in Titanic is phenomenal. But Confidential is the way better movie. -
wylierichardson-966-922691 — 10 years ago(February 16, 2016 10:47 PM)
But that approach to telling the story of Titanic (i.e. biopic with no tacked-on love story) had already been done, twice before. Those movies were "Titanic" and "A night to remember", both from the 50s.