Was Trent bi? Was Sean gay?
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palindromicevilolive — 21 years ago(January 18, 2005 05:26 PM)
That scene tells us he's interested in women, but that in no way precludes him being bisexual, which was my point. There isn't much in the movie to suggest that he was bi, except for the scenes where he interacts with Sean-The first scene, where he put his finger through the hole in Sean's shirt, certainly seems intentionally flirtatious. However, I think this could be Trent playing mind games with Sean, possibly in retaliation for the shabby treatment he received at the party. The second scene, with the biting kiss, seemed more overtly hostile, I think Trent was just trying to find a way to get out of the situation without getting badly beaten and still say f-u to the boys.
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PunkRockAphrodite — 19 years ago(May 04, 2006 11:30 PM)
i think Trent saw that Sean was gay after the party, when Sean was kind of flirting w/ him and played with his hands. the fact that Sean went to Trent's school, if even for a day, kind of brought him down to Trent's level. that caused it to become sort of a power play for Trent, and thats why he stuck his finger in the hole in Sean's shirt.
later, when the boys (can't remember the other one's name) were bullying Trent, he used his sexuality to get out of the way. the kiss was meant to tease Sean, and biting him was just in defense.
but i always thought that Trent seemed like a sexual person, he kind of has this lazy sexuality throughout the movie and maybe he wasn't bi but was toying with the idea of Sean. he was kind of turned on, for lack of a better word, by the fact that Sean's homosexuality was the kind of taboo in that society, which wouldn't accept Trent because of his poverty. In a way, they are both outsiders, which is why Sean's homosexuality is so understated. does that make sense?
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sighman3 — 19 years ago(May 14, 2006 11:07 PM)
Yeah! I agree with this.
I think the point of this scene was to show that Trent had a very natural, earthy kind of sexuality whilst someone like Sean is uptight about his own instincts.
He can only proposition Trent later, after the CD's have been broken because he now has something to hold over him.
He'd find the idea of coupling with Trent as an equal terrifying, while Trent could be up for it. -
Raksha_Keller — 19 years ago(September 03, 2006 02:46 PM)
but i always thought that Trent seemed like a sexual person, he kind of has this lazy sexuality throughout the movie and maybe he wasn't bi but was toying with the idea of Sean. he was kind of turned on, for lack of a better word, by the fact that Sean's homosexuality was the kind of taboo in that society, which wouldn't accept Trent because of his poverty. In a way, they are both outsiders, which is why Sean's homosexuality is so understated. does that make sense?
I feel this analysis is spot on. And I loved the fact that trent kiss/bit him, it was a good move to give Sean what he wanted and to establish his dominanace over him.
And on a shallower note, the tension between the two was hot. -
oneperfectmoment — 19 years ago(October 19, 2006 03:06 PM)
The writer of the script happens to be my aunt, and most of her plays and screenplays have a tendency to lean towards investigating what sexuality really is and whether or not someone can even be sure about their orientation. In this case, the conflict is supposed to be enhanced by the class differences and the fact that whether or not Sean was gay didn't matter- the idea of doing something forbidden allowed him to rebel aginst his own class background, especially because of Trent's job and the way he was viewed by the whole community. It was just another way of invesigating how, even in a 'perfect' place, such as Oldham County (where I grew up, and so did my aunt), there are things bubbling beneath the surface that the members of the community try and ignore. But they always come up and eventually, they have to be faced.
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pas_si_simple — 16 years ago(December 16, 2009 05:05 AM)
i really appreciate this insight.
i agree that the scene at the party was like-recognizing-like in the way that they were both outsiders and imperfect in that false/appearance-only world. trent being bi or not doesn't really matter his act was an everyday rebellion, sean being gay makes the most sense though.
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silversusi — 18 years ago(April 21, 2007 02:57 AM)
man it was hot when he kissed and bit Sean, sean apparently liked it since he let him leave after that lolz
to me it felt like maybe Trent was just messing with Sean with all that flirting but he also made it seem like he was kind of attracted to Sean i dunno but it was hot. -
InUrFridge — 18 years ago(April 21, 2007 03:19 AM)
I didn't that bit was sexual in the slightest: Devon was telling him about tetanus basically when she was talking about snakebies (I think). I saw him kissing Sean as a joke but then the bite was revenge for cutting him with the strimmer (so that if he got tetanus Sean would too). This is of course based on a very loose knowledge of how that type of infection can be spread.
Maybe I'm trying to apply something which is (sexually) innocent to a scene which isn't actually in the slightest.
A Plane. With Snakes On It. On DVD.
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bradleyb1982 — 16 years ago(September 27, 2009 12:49 AM)
Give me a break.
Trent is not gay. He was stuck in a tough situation and was about to be bullied to no end, after his mower was ruined.
He saw a weakness with Sean. Sean was gay but in the closet, and Trent realized that his one way out was the fact Sean was attracted to him.
When you're the bottom of the barrel, and caught in a dangerous situation like Trent was, you'll take the way out that maximizes your survival.
He kissed Sean to escape, nothing more, nothing less. He bit him as a way of saying beep you," but to get Sean on his side, and get away.
If I was a laborer and some preppy beep were messing with me and I felt I was in danger, I'd do the same thing. It's ballsy, which is Trent's MO on occasion.
And it worked, and Trent escaped.
