Very uncomfortable watching this
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illbeoneasystreet — 12 years ago(March 04, 2014 05:13 PM)
Romeo and Juliet is one of the most misunderstood of the Shakespeare stories. It wasn't a love story it was a tragedy. Romeo starts the play off in love with someone else. They weren't in love they had only know each other for a couple days. They were foolish children who got caught up in their hormones mistaking lust for love. If anything it more or less proves your point but, society has turned it into a love story. A teenager is a child plain and simple people can talk about the past as much as they want but the fact of the matter is human evolution has changed the way our brains develop. In the not so distant past puberty meant adulthood but as we started lengthening childhood our brains started changing. Pivotal connections have been delayed and as adults it is our duty to protect that innocence not take advantage of it.
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ridge-m-1 — 10 years ago(March 31, 2016 05:12 PM)
Oh yes, behold the repressed, ignorant and typical follower of one of the Western organized religions of the species known as Homo Sapien Americanus. Notice the babblings of the propaganda this member of this reviled around the world species regurgitates in the form of what he intends to be factual and insightful information. He is nothing more than one of the many sheeple wandering through life without a clue as well as without an original thought.
The more sophisticated relative of the aforementioned poor wayfaring stranger is Homo Sapien Europenis. This species attitudes toward sexuality are much more in line with how the trunk of the species, Homo Sapiens, evolved. These individuals are aware that human sexuality is not something that can be controlled from the pulpit. They realize that especially the female of the species becomes aware of her own sexuality at sometimes quite an early age and in some instances is not shy about having these sexual cravings satisfied by either a girlfriend of her approximate age or an older man that has obviously already passed through the stage of puberty. It can be a most satisfying relationship for the both of them.
One must acknowledge that the act of making love by a couple that deeply care for one another is the greatest pleasure Homo Sapiens can enjoy. Life is short, too sort. The sooner one is inclined to engage in sexual activity, the longer period of time this ultimate pleasure can be enjoyed.
Do not be led astray by false prophets such as those that tired-of-the-net attempts, pitifully so, to emulate. On a side note, what is an individual with that screen name even doing on this site? It seems paradoxical that he would rear his befogged head in an online discussion group. -
Lester_Burnham_Risen — 12 years ago(March 05, 2014 12:14 AM)
Last point: in today's world, we have such a knee-jerk reaction to everything sexual that it is bordering on hysteria. Case in point. a friend showed his 15 year-old class the amazing, passionate and sensual Romeo and Juliet by Franco Zeffirelli. (MUCH better than the Romeo& Juliet with Leo and Claire Danes ).
At the end of it, the class basically said that they hated it! Why? "Because Romeo is a stalker"! !!!!!
And there you have it: the world's GREATEST English-language love story reduced to a perversion.
THAT is the tenor of the times. If the people reading this don't see the horror in that, then it is time they woke up!
correct, AND that is the exact same reason [the small f feminists that took over the american "education system" [read indoctrination] in 1970] that caused Lolita 1997 to be the biggest ever Hollywood financial flop.
ie it was the "pedophile" perversion that has been drummed into the american kiddies "before he is 6 or 7 or 8", also called stalking [as you say] "stranger danger", "upskirting" or whatever flavor-of-the-month the feminists come up with
it was reason Mendes set up his "Lolita" [as Angela] with Lester in American Beauty to stand back and watch the feminists perform.
what IS perverted is that the LEADER of the small f feminists Germaine Greer has long since done a 180 degree flip and as an 70 year old hag has taken up REAL pedophilia, masturbating 13 year old boys
but she is safe from the law as she says because "society" does not permit itself to accept females can be pedophiles.
yes indeed THAT is the HORROR, the HORROR
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callawright — 11 years ago(June 26, 2014 02:46 AM)
Romeo and Juliet is NOT one of the greatest English language love stories and the fact that you think it is disturbs me.
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machocabrio — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 07:36 PM)
I like that you wrote this. It's a great debate. Personally I think of adults lusting for kids to be sick. I mean, biochemically sick. I was 14 when I tried to seduce my 25 year old aunt (might I say, step-aunt). It worked and she was my first sexual encounter. I recall it was a fantastic time, she was really beautiful and I'm glad it happened that way and not with a prostitute or something like that. Anyways, I've never felt it was a bad call, but she regretted it years later. So whenever I talk about this subject I think it's important to take every view and speak openly about it. I'll give some thought to what you just wrote.
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snparks — 9 years ago(January 28, 2017 09:56 AM)
I agree with much of everything you just pointed out in your post. As long as the adult doesn't force themselves or "coerce" the teen into a relationship, then by all means, if its mutual, so be it. As long as the teen is past puberty, it shouldn't really matter here because they know what's right and wrong way before reaching puberty anyway.
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kolinos4 — 15 years ago(May 26, 2010 10:05 AM)
This is adaptation of Nabokov's novel.
This was confusing, so in the middle I had to stop watching and check how old was Lolita at the time they shot the film.
After that it was okay for me. Obviously, they had the actresses pass psychological tests and so on to see how mature was she for the role.
As for the story, the issue was and is very actual, because shows that peoples mental trauma can be for life You can see that Humberd narrated the story himself, and this way of portraying shows us his mind, do you catch it? As well as the gyu from Clockwork orange narrated itself, these people do not think this is abnormal. They just do not realise And all is the resut of unperfect personality. Just think how many mentally sick people are there They better watch porn than do this in real life. -
pogostiks — 14 years ago(July 21, 2011 02:10 PM)
Ummm just exactly what was the "trauma?
The one who really ends up destroyed is Humbert Humbert, mainly by the manipulations of Lolita herself. She knows VERY well what she is doing, almost throughout the entire film.
In today's world we INSIST that there is trauma, so that we can then scream hysterically and make sure that there will BE trauma.
Why am I saying such a thing?
Experience.
Here's MY story - true to the last detail.
At 9 years of age I went to see a Tarzan film with a cousin. We decided to stay and watch the beginning again, but someone sat in front of me and so I moved one seat overit looked like I was alone. When the film started up again, I didn't immediately notice that a man of about 24 had sat down beside me. What made me notice him was that suddenly his hand was on my knee.
I thought this was funny, as I believed it was because he was so excited about watching Tarzan wrestle with a python that he had missed the arm-rest and grabbed my knee instead by mistake.
I turned towards him - and he pulled his hand away like it was burned!
Still thinking this was funny, I leaned over to tell my cousin about the man who had mistaken my knee for an arm-rest, but my cousin replied "What man?" He was gone.
In a flash I realized that it had NOT been an accident, and I realized EXACTLY what he had wanted.
Now, according to modern standards, everyone will think that I was frightened and traumatized by this incident.
In fact not. I already knew that I was attracted to my own sex, and when I realized what this young man had wanted, my first reaction was DISAPPOINTMENT that he had left! I was totally intrigued by the idea of maybe "fiddling around" with him
Now, the REAL problem is that every time I tell this story, people INSIST that I was traumatized.
I tell them no.
But they NEED me to be traumatized, because if I wasn't, then their entire world-view has to be changed from the knee-jerk reactions that everyone expects.
Some will say" Oh, well, that's gays for you!"
But I have heard enough stories to know that one doesn't have to be gay to be attracted to an older person and be curious.
But once the adults find out about this, they have such incredibly violent reactions to all of it that the kid invariably realizes very quickly that he(she) BETTER feign "trauma" or they are going to be in real TROUBLE! The parents will panic, send them to the psychiatrist, yell at them "What's WRONG with you?" and punish them in any and every way imaginable until the "child" admits that he was "scared, didn't know what to do, " and begins to play the victim. Then the parents and other adults calm down and concentrate on getting the adult and throwing him in prison; The world order has been upheld.
BUT human beings are far too complex to fit into boxes, especially when it concerns sexuality.
If you read a lot of the reports (especially with teenage boys, rather than with girls - their reactions ARE different) very often the sexual events took place for MONTHS before someone finds out about it, and suddenly the kid starts telling everyone he was "too scared" to stop. Well, he realizes VERY quickly that if he admits that he was HAPPY to be there, he is going to be in deep doo-doo. So he lies
I'm done; I just want to say that I fully realize that some children are raped, forced and are truly victims. I do not deny this, and I find it totally unacceptable, like ANY rape of ANY person at ANY age.
But it must be known that sometimes the child is NOT unhappy, NOT traumatized, and often quite willing.
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lavinder11 — 14 years ago(January 16, 2012 09:02 PM)
Eh, nice anecdote. I'm sure most children can account to sexual curiosity (it is natural) with adults. However, the story of Lolita is told through Humbert's point of view. Whatever we see/read is skewed in his favor.
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