Serves Del's 'Audience' Right!!
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!!!deleted!!! (47421091) — 11 years ago(October 03, 2014 04:17 PM)
And yes, it does a fine job of exposing such immorality on their part.
Immorality? I think a painless execution is more humane than denying a person their liberty for the rest of their lives, unless you are also advocating no punishment whatsoever.
The late great Mike Royko had a great opinion on the death penalty. He suggested that everyone should carry a card on his person (or driver's license) that would state whether the bearer, if murdered, would want the murderer executed or not. Someone like you would have the option of having your murderer imprisoned for life with three square meals, TV, movies, work out equipment, etc.
As for me, I'm pro death penalty for certain crimes, but would agree to end capital punishment if the perp was then stuffed in a crate like a veal, and fed a nutritious but otherwise bland "con-chow" (Purina could make it) and clean water for the rest of their lives. No TV, no gym, no free college education-nothing. Give them the option of ending their miserable lives if this doesn't suit them. -
highpriestess32 — 11 years ago(October 04, 2014 12:35 AM)
But who is to say it is painless? I read recently that it isn't even being undertaken by those qualified to dispense the lethal injections
But I would agree that there can be way too many privileges in prisons. It isn't supposed to be a holiday camp. Hard labour and loss of those luxuries should be standard. I think reading material should be available but stringently controlled as to the subject matter. If inmates are playing pool and watching television then they are still not facing up to their crimes. Those who are incapable of rehabilitation should still have to earn their every meal seeing as it costs so much to keep one person incarcerated.
Has anyone seen my wife? - Columbo -
!!!deleted!!! (47421091) — 11 years ago(October 04, 2014 01:21 PM)
But who is to say it is painless?
If that's your only objection, I have a solution: carbon monoxide. Those overcome by it through faulty heating, ventilation, or pitching woo in a running automobile with the windows up report being totally unaware anything is happening to them. (in fact, a young couple a few years ahead of me in high school died in the back seat of an old Corvair). Put them in a room, fill with carbon monoxide, they drift off to blissful permanent slumber. -
highpriestess32 — 11 years ago(October 04, 2014 10:48 PM)
No it isn't my only objection. I am just against the State playing God with lives. That isn't to say I am anti-punishment. People should be held culpable for their crimes but the prison system just isn't much of a deterrent. Neither in fact is the DP. Crime is no less prevalent in States that support it.
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rascal67 — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 12:49 AM)
The state still has a duty of care to it's inmates and not to treat others inhumanely and with cruelty. They are locked up for crimes perpetrated against societies laws and I have to ask myself, if I ended up in a sticky situation myself, or knew of someone I cared about who was to be imprisoned, would I want to see others treated with scorn and disdain, which can border on criminal behavior itself?
I do have an issue with the term "punishment"; because what is this solving and teaching others about attitudes and behaviors? I don't think many hardcore criminals have been taught ways in which to improve their lives for the benefit of themselves and others at a very early stage; they are just told that they are wrong for what they shouldn't be doing, instead of what they could have been doing. This is a very disconcerting and even corrupt aspect of our society, and what many parents are putting out there based on their own ignorance regarding breeding and children.
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Bulls18135 — 11 years ago(July 28, 2014 02:44 AM)
Not everyone watching the execution is doing it because they enjoy watching someone die. Legally there has to be witnesses. The victims or victims family have the right to watch, members of the press are usually present, most likely assigned to the job, and I'm sure representatives of the state are present as well.
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holatKolnoa — 1 year ago(December 20, 2024 11:34 AM)
I believe that the US is the only developed country that still has capital punishment. The rest of the world is laughing at us, but not because we're wusses, rather the opposite.
When you think of garbage, think of Hakeem!
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mdnightwnd — 11 years ago(December 06, 2014 11:23 PM)
In the case of this movie, I felt incredibly sorry for Del, but then again, we didn't really learn much about his crime. He was set up to be a sympathetic character.
However, if someone killed someone I love I would go to watch them get BBQ'd and be happy that they were getting what they deserve - botched or not.
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lilcharmer — 9 years ago(September 19, 2016 12:26 PM)
However, if someone killed someone I love I would go to watch them get BBQ'd and be happy that they were getting what they deserve - botched or not.
Same.
Its the type of thing that the OP will just not understand so there is no point even arguing it.
I can't say I would be ok sitting and watching an actual execution, especially only a few feet away but I would be
very satisfied
to know it was done and that my loved ones' killer was done. And not sitting around in some prison, reading books, watching movies, making friends, eating meals or having any of the luxuries that my deceased loved one was robbed of.
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thomas-begen-194-976045 — 10 years ago(August 25, 2015 09:58 PM)
I am pro death penalty for the most heinous crimes but I agree that I find something disturbing about people watching an execution, especially an electrocution. It's one of the harshest forms of execution short of being drawn and quartered. While I agree with many of your assertions, I can understand how a family who lost a loved one to murder could watch an execution. It may be sickening and ultimately give no satisfaction, but losing a loved one is so painful that it's easy to delude oneself into believing watching an execution will give them some satisfaction.
You bemoan the immorality of the death penalty but you seem to demonstrate a very limited understanding of the prison system in America. America incarcerates more people than any nation on earth. Prisons are breeding grounds for the formation of gangs, if they didn't exist already. People are put in an environment where their lives may be ended any day and you somehow think this is more humane than the death penalty? I'm no liberal but there is something profoundly wrong about the prison industrial complex in America.
There are many problems with the "justice system," but believe the death penalty is among the least of our problems in America. We incarcerate too many people, often for poor reasons, and the punishment often is not commensurate with the crime: people get a slap on the wrist for murder but are given decades for drug convictions. The savages who engage in human trafficking rarely get put behind bars; and when they do their sentence is laughable. On that note, I am a firm supporter of sending human traffickers to death camps or some place worse.