Black American soldiers were there on June 6, 1944!!!
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Dave-R011 — 9 years ago(December 14, 2016 10:50 AM)
There are likely enough Jewish graves there that it might be hard not to show one. It may also be that Spielberg is Jewish. I might note that is is highly likely that more Jewish-Americans died in Normandy than African-Americans given that few Blacks were permitted in combat units.
There wouold have been no Blacks on the beach at that time or in the other combat situations or in the Ranger or Airborne rear areas. There's simply no in-story reason for any African-American characters or extras. -
candy228 — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 06:27 PM)
"There wouold have been no Blacks on the beach at that time or in the other combat situations or in the Ranger or Airborne rear areas. There's simply no in-story reason for any African-American characters or extras."
Did you watch the videos,
("A Distant Shore: African Americans of D-day")??
It looks like the answer is no. You don't want to hear the truth that black American soldiers WERE THERE on D-Day, June 6, 1944 and not only that on the video "A Distant Shore: African Americans of D-day"
starting at 1:10, black American combat troops were among the FIRST TROOPS to set foot on the Normandy Beachhead!! Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks wasn't going to show that in the movie opening scene landing on Omaha Beach in "Saving Private Ryan".
This movie was clearly inaccurate and the members of The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences knew it was inaccurate that why this racist movie "Saving Private Ryan" didn't win Best Picture Oscar and Tom Hanks didn't win the Oscar for Best Actor.
Black World War 2 veterans were OUTRAGE at Racist Steven Spielberg and Racist Tom Hanks. They are still OUTRAGE.
The racist thinking of majority of white people that they won World War 2 WITHOUT black people and white people love to take the credit for everything. No other races exist. -
Dave-R011 — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 06:02 AM)
I don't get my history from You-tube videos. I get it from books - books with proper citations, bibliographies, and peer review. The only Black combat arms unit that landed that day was a barrage balloon unit that came ashore after the fighting on the beach was over. Even if that were not correct, the fact is that no Blacks landed with the Rangers or the Airborne - the people this story is about.
As for Black veteran outrage - odd that they didn't complain when the film was released. For that matter, the only outrage I've ever heard is from one or two posters here on imdb.
As for not winning the Oscar, do note it went to a film that was just as White -
Shakespeare in Love
, which didn't show a single person of colour even though Black people lived in the London of the time. -
Vulcans_Rule — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 09:39 PM)
I'm not sure candy228 understands what you are telling him. His reply was not a logical response to what you actually posted.
You are correct that it would have been inaccurate to show blacks on the beach during the opening scene, the famous first 15 minutes of this movie. But there is another brief scene on or near the beach set days later. That scene could have shown some blacks in the background, although not among the Rangers.
Of course, the movie has numerous inaccuracies anyway.
Entropy ain't what it used to be. -
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Vulcans_Rule — 9 years ago(December 18, 2016 07:46 AM)
It would not have materially changed the story, so most viewers would not care much either way. But it seems candy228 might have appreciated the nod to multiracial contributions to victory. Also might have been pretty cool to see a barrage balloon go up.
Entropy ain't what it used to be. -
nickm2 — 9 years ago(December 20, 2016 04:31 AM)
But that would involve indulging candy228's childish tantrum. Come to think of it, for some reason Candy's behavior reminds me of Trigglypuff:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trigglypuff
Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!? -
Vulcans_Rule — 9 years ago(December 11, 2016 08:19 PM)
Please explain to me in ALL of the World War 2 movies and tv shows based on true historical events they didn't show black American soldiers on them?
Red Tails and Tuskegee Airmen come to mind as movies based on historical events that showed black Americans in combat. The reason these are exceptional in showing blacks in combat is because it was exceptional for blacks to be used in combat. The units were not integrated then, and almost all combat units were white.
Racism of the period is the primary cause, not racism among modern movie makers.
Majority of white people hate black people.
That's blatant racism on your part.
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ABBEY1227-1 — 9 years ago(December 11, 2016 08:26 PM)
The reason these are exceptional in showing blacks in combat is because it was exceptional for blacks to be used in combat.
There's an excellent Doc on the building of the Al-Can highway on the History Channel, I believe.
That's blatant racism on your part.
It's also pretty unbelievable in this day and age.
I'd be shocked by any figure larger than 5-10% of the population embracing that kind of attitude at most. -
Vulcans_Rule — 9 years ago(December 11, 2016 08:47 PM)
You must have followed me here.
This is a board where I have made thousands of posts. Years ago, it rivaled the Politics board for total posts, as a de facto history board. It's quieted down by at least an order of magnitude since then, but there are still some very knowledgeable posters here. Two examples are in this thread.
I saw part of some documentary of the Alaska road construction. I don't recall race aspects, but more technical engineering.
Nobody here doubts blacks participated in the war effort. But very occasionally we get a poster wondering why no blacks were shown among the first wave hitting the beach. That would portray segregated units as integrated units.
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ABBEY1227-1 — 9 years ago(December 11, 2016 10:07 PM)
You must have followed me here.
My 'Friends' list here is short.but I find what most of them say of some value.otherwise I couldn't be bothered to include them on my list.
I don't recall race aspects, but more technical engineering.
The portion I remember was a bit interesting because it was similar to how the Chunnel was constructed with 2 'competing' sides racing towards one another and hoping to out-do the other side. Of course, the Blacks were given older, lesser equipment and had to do with less in many cases..but their handiwork was admirable anyway. It's amazing what all of those people got done at the time considering the harsh conditions, the technology/equipment available and the pressure they were under.
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jwiles1 — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 10:01 PM)
Red Tails and Tuskegee Airmen come to mind as movies based on historical events that showed black Americans in combat. The reason these are exceptional in showing blacks in combat is because it was exceptional for blacks to be used in combat. The units were not integrated then, and almost all combat units were white.
Racism of the period is the primary cause, not racism among modern movie makers.
Also, Tora Tora Tora and that god awful Ben Afleck travesty Pearl Harbor both showed Dorie Miller.