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    zabbree — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 04:57 PM)

    I have no issues with anyone that commits proven ethics violations getting everything they deserve, and Democratic or Republican, they should not be able to police themselves.

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      JamesAvalon — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 06:05 PM)

      I notice you never criticize Dems for ethics violations. So that contradicts, in action, your own claims, Miss Fair.

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        zabbree — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 06:09 PM)

        Please show where I ignored an ethics violation.

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          JamesAvalon — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 06:13 PM)

          You have not once criticized the Dems for their unprecedented ethics violations. Not once. Start with Obama's lies. Ready? Set? Go!

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            zabbree — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 07:14 PM)

            Please post an actual lie and not one that is made up in your head.

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              JamesAvalon — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 08:53 PM)

              Ok.
              'If you like your healthcare, you can keep your healthcare. Period.'
              Amazing that you needed to have this pointed out to you, which speaks volumes about your 'fairness'.

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                zabbree — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 08:26 AM)

                Is that all you have?
                A lie is knowingly stating something you know to be false. I didn't think that was a lie. I thought it was an assumption and based on the fact he didn't know what the hell he was saying. I thought it showed how little he understood about how the insurance industry works internally. Now, one could argue he should have come back and admitted he was wrong, but if you are speaking of outright lies, you'll have to do better than that.

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                  yobets — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 09:03 AM)

                  Now, one could argue he should have come back and admitted he was wrong
                  He did, but nobody remembers that part -
                  In an interview with Chuck Todd of NBC News on Nov. 7, Obama offered an apology to the many Americans who have been notified that they are, in fact, losing the health plans they previously had and wanted to keep.
                  I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me, Obama said. Weve got to work hard to make sure that they know we hear them and that were going to do everything we can to deal with folks who find themselves in a tough position as a consequence of this.

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                    JamesAvalon — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 09:06 AM)

                    No, that's just for starters.
                    I want you to address that lie and it was a lie. He knew it was a lie when he told it. They all knew it was a lie and even laughed about the stupidity of the American voter as a NECESSITY in selling this lie.
                    Anyone with a brain knew that what he was selling was impossible.
                    Maybe you haven't caught on yet? Obama is a liar.

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                      zabbree — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 11:58 AM)

                      I want you to address that lie and it was a lie. He knew it was a lie when he told it. They all knew it was a lie and even laughed about the stupidity of the American voter as a NECESSITY in selling this lie.
                      Really? You know this for a fact LMAO You're too much.

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                        JamesAvalon — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 12:11 PM)

                        Yes, of course he lied. You would have to be a total dolt (no offense) to believe he was simply mistaken.

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                            zabbree — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 11:30 AM)

                            When you have little knowledge how the insurance industry works you have no business passing laws on it. PERIOD!
                            I disagree. I think he should have implemented a system that eliminated the for-profit insurance model. It is the largest part of the healthcare costs in this country.

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                                zabbree — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 01:19 PM)

                                Why do you assume changing the system would mean you are going to pay more than you always have for someone else's health insurance? If medicine was not seen as a way for non-medical providers to earn a profit, it wouldn't cost so much.

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                                  kindheart000-2 — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 11:07 AM)

                                  I think this ethics office incident was all a sham. Trump wanted to appear to be a hero. Look at the names of the 119 members of the House who voted in favor of gutting the committee last night. I called the offices of several this morning.
                                  Yes yes yes, 100% agree w/ the above. When the number of people calling in to their reps became known to Don, his evil-governess Kellyanne instructed the puppet to tweet that sentiment of not being fully in favor of getting rid of ethics committee. Of course, he re-worded using his own lame lingo and revealed that he actually WAS in support of it. It was indicated they can work on that later, but for now their job is to destroy Pres. Obama's legacy, no matter whether it will hurt Americans or not. If it was BO's idea, it has to go, right?
                                  I made calls yesterday due to that topic being brought up on "The View, and on the boards here. I was disconnected several times, sat on hold 1 1/2 hrs, but I said my piece to 3 offices. In fact, seeing those smug, giddy, giggling white men GOP idiots laughing like they swallowed the canary after their big meet-up on the hill today made me SICK to my stomach. Boy, are they excited about repealing everything. They couldn't stop gloating. Pride goeth before a fall, GOP.
                                  Again, they don't care about the American people. They want to stick it to Obama and the Dems, which is half the country.
                                  When U break it down, the "American people" these GOP leaders like to keep mentioning as supporting Trump were only barely 1/4 of Americans. Not even CLOSE to being a majority.

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                                    !!!deleted!!! (28128673) — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 01:17 PM)

                                    Great work, kindheart.
                                    The GOP may try to sneak this through again in August. They're hoping that no one will be paying attention then.

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