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    !!!deleted!!! (28128673) — 9 years ago(January 02, 2017 09:15 AM)

    Last summer I read Hillbilly Elegy after seeing the author interviewed a couple of times. Vance, the product of a hardscrabble Appalachian childhood, spoke about why poor white people were prey to Trump's tactics. Vance eventually joined the military, got his undergraduate degree at OSU and went on to get his juris doctor from Yale University.
    Today, Connie Schultz, recipient of a Pulitzer Prize in journalism, shared Vance's words on President Obama:
    "I suspected that there were skeletons lurking in his closet, too. Surely this was a man with a secret sex addiction, or at least an alcohol problem. I secretly guessed that before the end of his term, some major personal scandal would reveal his family life to be a sham. I disagreed with many of his positions, so perhaps a dark part of me wanted such a scandal to come out. But it never came. He and his wife treated each other with clear love and respect, and he adored and cared for his children. Whatever scars his childhood left, he refused to let those scars control him.
    "The presidents example offered something no other public figure could: hope. I wanted so desperately to have what he had a happy marriage and beautiful, thriving children. But I thought that those things belonged to people unlike me, to those who came from money and intact nuclear families. For the rest of us, past was destiny. Yet here was the president of the United States, a man whose history looked something like mine but whose future contained something I wanted. His life stood in stark contrast to my greatest fear.
    "Eventually, I achieved something roughly similar to the presidents early, personal accomplishments: a prestigious law degree, a strong professional career and a modicum of fame as a writer. There were many personal heroes in my life: aunts and uncles, a protective sister, a father who re-entered my life at the right time. But I benefited, too, from the example of a man whose public life showed that we need not be defeated by the domestic hardships of youth.
    "It is one of the great failures of recent political history that the Republican Party was too often unable to disconnect legitimate political disagreements from the fact that the president himself is an admirable man. Part of this opposition comes from this uniquely polarized moment in our politics, part of it comes from Mr. Obamas leadership style more disconnected and cerebral than personal and emotive and part of it (though a smaller amount than many on the left suppose) comes from the color of his skin."

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      JamesAvalon — 9 years ago(January 02, 2017 09:45 AM)

      Obama is maybe the least admirable president I have seen. Any man who has to LIE almost non-stop is not a man to admire.

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        yobets — 9 years ago(January 02, 2017 11:23 AM)

        Any man who has to LIE almost non-stop is not a man to admire.
        You don't admire yourself?????

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          pjpurple-1 — 9 years ago(January 02, 2017 02:19 PM)

          Obama is "disconnected" , boy that's an understatement!!! Hid followers DO like HIM, but they never seem to connect all his failures with him.
          Maybe someone should write a book about why the uneducated, gullible and clueless fell prey to a lying criminal like Mrs. Bil Clinton. But HESTER would never post that!
          Vance does sound like a product of Yale's left-wing thinking though. I wonder how many conservatives are on the faculty??
          Facts are not liberals strong suit. Rhetoric is. Thomas Sowell

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            pvd295 — 9 years ago(January 02, 2017 07:30 PM)

            Last summer I read Hillbilly Elegy after seeing the author interviewed a couple of times.
            I read this book in September, and couldn't put it down. It's a book everyone needs to read - too bad not every Trump supporter didn't read it BEFORE the election. It should have been required reading for all registered voters.
            Maybe someone should write a book about why the uneducated, gullible and clueless fell prey to a lying criminal like Mrs. Bil Clinton. But HESTER would never post that!
            LOL! Wrong again, PJs&pimples!
            Those uneducated, gullible and clueless you mention fell prey to the rapist/sexual criminal, Donald Trump. How can you forget that?
            "Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16

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              !!!deleted!!! (28128673) — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 04:44 PM)

              Ive felt disgust before, but never the kind of fear that you feel now. Its as simple as the fear of, is someone simply competent enough to do this particular job? Do they simply have the pure competence to be put in the position of such responsibility?
              He added:
              When you let that genie out of the bottle bigotry, racism, intolerance they dont go back in the bottle that easily, if they go back in at all. Whether its a rise in hate crimes, people feeling they have license to speak and behave in ways that previously were considered un-American and are un-American. Thats what hes appealing to. My fears are that those things find a place in ordinary, civil society.
              Bruce Springsteen

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                !!!deleted!!! (28128673) — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 07:06 PM)

                Coal miners put their trust in Trump but now they may be battling black lung disease without Obamacare:
                https://www.theblackloop.com/2016/12/30/coal-miners-who-voted-trump-now-begging-to-keep-obamacare/

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                  JamesAvalon — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 09:10 PM)

                  Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhhht because before Obamacare, these very well paying jobs didn't include healthcare. LOL
                  Stop with your nonsense, Hester. You need to start watching Jaws more. And on blu ray this time. Everything you need to know about life is in that film. If you just look for it.

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