What If they Called the Police From the Get-Go?
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camel-wides — 12 years ago(August 26, 2013 12:49 AM)
prostitution is not legal in vegas not even in brothels
the legal nevada brothers are NOT in vegas. they are all outside the city limits.
as for the drugs, nevada has some of the most draconian drug laws in the country, esecially in 98 when this movie was made.
but assuming they got rid of the drugs the fuzz wouldn't likely push a solicitation charge for a dead hooker. especially if no one admitted to paying for SEX.
a manslaughter charge for the one who actually killed her at the most.
the coroner would have labeled her death as "death by sexual misadventure"
for the rest of them, not sure if any charges would even be filed
really, the drugs are the worst thing they were looking at.
first off, being under the influence is a crime in nevada all it's own.
additionally they would have all been charged with joint possession of the drugs a part fo nevada law where more than one person can be charged for possession.
they were all adults, so fines of up to a grand each, and misdemeanor charges for the weed. (minors under 21, felony charge, up to 5k fine)
the coke however would have been up to a year in jail
realistically, they could have probationed out with completion of a state accepted program, or possibly gotten it thrown out completely by completing an acceptable program (especially seeing as how they were all adults, low flight risks, had enough money to lawyer up properly, and looked like respectable citizens)
thats assuming they have no priors of course.
one can only assume slaters character had something to hide, something to lose from the vegas police looking into him otherwise, why would it all have gone so very sideways? -
davedave11 — 9 years ago(May 24, 2016 03:05 AM)
Prostitution is not legal in the way you think. There are certain places outside of La sVegas where licensed brothels are legal. That's it. Prostitution is illegal under state law in Clark County (which contains Las Vegas),
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icem2829 — 16 years ago(June 26, 2009 08:05 AM)
If they have called the police from the get-go, i dont even think Piven would have gotten charged with anything that would have sent him away. It was clearly a freak accident, and would be hard to prove and thing worse then that. He might have gotten slapped with something like reckless endagerment as you mentioned. As far as the others, I cant see anything sticking. Drug possession? doubful, they would just flush it down the toilet. So what else could you charge them with. Just being in the vincity of a crime does not charge you with a crime unless they helped it somehow, which they didnt.
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liven1812 — 16 years ago(July 03, 2009 07:21 PM)
That is what I was considering. Involuntary manslaughter, even voluntary manslaughter, Piven, Michael?, would have been out of prison (if even, perhaps jail) in two years. If they were smart they would have cleaned up the crack and then called the police. But, then, as you said, we wouldn't have had a movie.
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AbsintheSummer — 16 years ago(July 27, 2009 08:58 PM)
Yes, it WAS a freak accident, but law would probably stipulate that it might not have happened had they not been high & drunk (Not proud of it, but) I know from experience how the combo affects depth perception and sight.
So In that case, Michael probably would have ended up with RECKLESS HOMICIDE and the others would have been charged with either RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT for being jacked up & calling the prostitute (because of their inebriation, the room would have immediately been considered a dangerous area for others), or DRUG POSESSION/USE and SOLICITATION (for "ordering" the chick).
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rp69 — 16 years ago(August 24, 2009 11:08 AM)
Escort prostitution IS legal in Vegas. Street trolling is illegal. Calling an escort service, and having a girl delivered to your room to service you and your friends is ok. Escort companies have dozens of mexican men on every corner of the strip handing out handbills and buisiness cards, they even where company shirts. There's also newspaper style directories in curbside vending boxes set up all over the place just for escort sevices. You can not pick up a hooker in the street though, that's solicitation. But he knew a girl, called ahead, and she came to the room, there was no solicitation .
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Mr_Censored — 16 years ago(February 05, 2010 07:33 PM)
I'm probably the only one glad he died.
I was actually disappointed that he died when he did. It seemed to me they could have gone even further with the character.
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rickb69 — 10 years ago(September 10, 2015 02:12 PM)
Escort prostitution IS legal in Vegas
no it is not. They are advertising for a stripper to come to your room or to give you a massage, even though most of them are prostitutes. Just like in the movie, she was a stripper, the sex was $500 more.
If you do want to get a prostitute, don't ask them if they are a cop, they can lie if they are undercover, ask them if they want to take some nude pictures, if they are a cop they will say no, then you can walk away and not get busted
You go into a smoke shop, you can't ask to buy a bong, marijuana is still illegal but, you can ask to buy a water pipe to smoke tobacco, even though they know most people use "water pipes" to smoke weed.
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ajinsomniac — 16 years ago(November 21, 2009 09:54 PM)
If they flushed the drugs down the toilet they wouldnt have to deal with the drug charges.
Since there was no record of her going through anybody to get the prostitute, they could try to swing the angle of just meeting the girl in the streets and not knowing she was a prostitute (Some hookers wait until you've already done the deed to tell you.and you think you're just getting a one night stand).
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ShangriLaDeeDa — 15 years ago(May 24, 2010 04:23 PM)
This is a facinating thread! The actual "trouble" they were in would be limited to Piven IF they were to get rid of the drugs and paraphernalia.
The prostitute was merely a stripper to the rest of the crew.
I think the rest of the guys were technically in the clear.
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kingaliencracker — 14 years ago(December 03, 2011 09:07 AM)
A slap on the wrist? Are you sure? I'm no legal expert, but I would think he'd get some jail time, 12 months at least, for manslaughter.
It just so happens I am a legal expert.
Based STRICTLY on what WE THE AUDIENCE saw, he didn't commit a crime.
The law is designed to punish those with intent or who were acting recklessly (i.e. someone who runs a red light or speeding and hits another vehicle, killing one or more passengers).
Piven & the victim were having sex in a private bathroom. Neither one of those is an illegal act. They weren't using any type of toys or weapons inappropriately, and the sex wasn't particularly rough. It wasn't Piven's bathroom - he didn't put a dangerous, spikey towel hook (I think that's what it was - been a few years since I've seen the movie) on the bathroom wall.
It was a freak accident. We could argue that if they were having sex in a bed or weren't moving around while having sex, she'd be alive. But since it's not a crime to have sex in a private bathroom or to change positions while you're having sex, it just boils down to it being a tragic accident.
HAVING SAID THATobviously the police and prosecutor aren't privy to what WE saw. There are extenuating circumstances. Piven would have likely been given a drug & alcohol screening which he undoubtedly would fail, and the victim was a hooker (not sure of Las Vegas laws surrounding hookers so I'll defer to others who do know such things). So while what we actually saw wasn't a crime, the police would put the pieces together that a crime did take place.
Now, what he would be charged with varies and it's really difficult to know if he would just be charged with felony endangerment or manslaughter. But if he has no priors and was otherwise an upstanding citizen, he probably would have gotten probation or maybe even a deferred judgment if he had a REALLY good lawyer. But I doubt he would have gotten ACTUAL jail time.