Dumb and sad movie.
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hyena-6 — 16 years ago(October 13, 2009 09:26 PM)
so you assume straight pride= anti gay? way to sound like an ass
I think the point is that dominants talking about "pride" is pretty much "anti" by nature.
Heterosexual, white, upper class, wealthy males have a majority of the power.
Straight pride, white pride, male pride or even "wealth pride" (i guess) all have a connotation of oppression. If you already have power, what is the necessity to promote your pride? because you plan to dominate or subjugate? I think the poster that assumed "straight pride = anti-gay" is correct.
Heterosexuals have a "pride" parade every Thanksgiving and it is sponsored by Macy's and televised. They also have them in most cities in the US around Christmas.
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hyena-6 — 16 years ago(November 09, 2009 09:28 PM)
I can understand you're point. However, does this mean that people who happen to be a part of the 'dominant' group should therefore live with a constant sense of shame and self-hatred? Just curious to know.
I never said that the dominants should have shame or self-hatred simply that being pro-power for yourself when you are already in power is pretty arrogant. Maybe if you are a dominant and understand that others are minorities then you would have tact and sympathy towards their lack of ability towards self-determination. Possibly, this could lead to empathy and actual concession of power and some semblance of equality well, it is possible.
The fact remains, just as the person assumed that "straight pride" is "anti-gay" was not a fallacious leap, because it inherently is just that; the leap that the opposite of not being blatantly racist or anti-gay or whatever is being filled with shame and self-hatred is a huge fallacious leap - you do not have to be full of self-hatred to be straight and concede that gay people are not afforded equal rights.
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perniciouspen@hotmail.com — 10 years ago(August 05, 2015 07:05 AM)
Yeah..because gay people never kill anyone do they?
Jeffrey Dahmer-gay- 17 victims
Andrei Chikatilo-gay-52 victims
Fritz Harmann-gay- 40 victims
John Wayne Gacey-gay-33 victims
Dennis Nielsen-gay-16 victims
Henry Lee Hooker-gay- 12 victims
Shall I continue or do you want to check out the full list for yourself?
http://www.adherents.com/misc/hsk.html