The scene where Sidney has flash backs about her high school days and is forced to re-live the discovery of her mother's
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Klockard23 — 9 years ago(September 07, 2016 04:07 PM)
Nope. Please read back what you wrote. I'm not the one acting like a child.
I'm not either. I'm being calm and collected here, you on the other hand are being a tad bit sensitive.
Apparently you do. You could've just said you disagreed with me or don't think it's an issue. But that's not what you did. You also call people stupid just because they think Kobayashi might be Soze
I don't, for reasons I already explained. And in regards to the Usual Suspects topic, what I
actually
said was that anyone who didn't get that the movie was clearly telling you that Verbal was Soze was an idiot.
I doubt you find any reason for not thinking this scene is great valid. But who are you to decide what reasons are valid? People can dislike something for whatever reason they want. But it's not like I said I disliked it because of the colour of Sidney's jacket or something. I only said the whole idea of rebuilding houses inside a studio is absurd, and that aspect has actual bearing on the scene. And it's only one of the reasons I don't think that scene is great. Your reasons for thinking it's great aren't less subjective than my reasons.
I think making a big deal about building houses inside a studio for a slasher movie is lame, that's my opinion. All the things you have to suspend disbelief on in almost any movie, and this is too much for you? When you weigh that against the positives of the scene, the cons outweigh the pros? Im my view, that is nitpicking to the utmost degree, but as I said, to each their own. -
Stratego — 9 years ago(September 07, 2016 05:07 PM)
I'm being calm and collected here
But still saying childish things. And no, I'm not being sensitive because I think it's strange to call someone's reasons for not loving a scene sh!t. You posted a thread sharing your opinion on that scene, and I replied thinking I could give my honest opinion. I didn't expect you to agree with me, but why would I expect anyone, especially a familiar poster, to call it sh!t?
what I actually said was that anyone who didn't get that the movie was clearly telling you that Verbal was Soze was an idiot
That's not exactly what you said, you just said how stupid some people can be. Besides, the person you replied to didn't claim that the movie wasn't telling that. Either way, it was a childish thing to say, even though I agree that the movie says Verbal is Soze.
When you weigh that against the positives of the scene, the cons outweigh the pros?
And what are the positives of the scene? I can only think of the flashbacks and a little chasing. You say you love the scene because it gives the feeling that she's actually back there again. Well, that's the problem for me, there's no way she could be back there unless she was in Woodsboro. The moment they showed the house, my first thought was that it was unrealistic they would rebuild it in such detail inside a studio. How am I supposed to shake off that thought when they keep showing impossible detail after impossible detail? How can I get emotional if they keep reminding me of how absurd it is? It's just like that dumb voice changer. Now, it may not be as bad as that, but it does stop me from "loving" that scene. And like I said, it's not just one thing I dislike about that whole scene. Now again, I don't expect you to agree with me. It's all just subjective opinion. You love that scene, good for you. -
Movie_Buff_Brad — 9 years ago(September 05, 2016 05:38 AM)
While the whole idea of the flashbacks may be nice, there's so much else wrong with that scene. I just think it's absurd they would re-build an entire house in a studio. That's just ridiculous, it gets in the way of leaving an emotional impact on me.
I thought I was the only person this bugged. They have Stu and Sidney's houses rebuilt down to the letter like they're making a historical Oscar drama. I mean, it's a "cheap slasher movie", not James Cameron's Titanic. You'd think they'd just use random houses in real neighborhoodslike the actual filmmakers.
The scene also implies there are two killers.
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Stratego — 9 years ago(September 05, 2016 08:55 AM)
I thought I was the only person this bugged. They have Stu and Sidney's houses rebuilt down to the letter like they're making a historical Oscar drama. I mean, it's a "cheap slasher movie", not James Cameron's Titanic. You'd think they'd just use random houses in real neighborhoodslike the actual filmmakers.
Exactly. Maybe we have to assume that Roman was so obsessed he wanted to replicate every detail, but there's no way the producers would've allowed that.
The scene also implies there are two killers.
Ah, really? I thought some fans theorize that the killer under the sheet was just Sidney's imagination, an idea I'm not too crazy about. Or are you referring to something else? -
ScorpionTDC — 9 years ago(September 05, 2016 01:33 PM)
Ah, really? I thought some fans theorize that the killer under the sheet was just Sidney's imagination, an idea I'm not too crazy about. Or are you referring to something else?
Doesn't Sidney slam the front door on the killer only for another one to pop out of the closet? Unless Roman can teleport. -
Stratego — 9 years ago(September 05, 2016 03:08 PM)
I can't remember how much time there is between the last shot of him chasing Sidney and then him popping out of the closet. He couldn't have entered the house through a back door? It's a stretch, but it wouldn't be the first time Ghostface has super speed.
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Movie_Buff_Brad — 9 years ago(September 05, 2016 05:42 PM)
I don't think the killer under the bloody sheet was a hallucination since Roman does it again later, so it's indeed a little weird that he goes from the bottom of the stairs to inside the upstairs room. But the part that really gets me is earlier when Roman goes from outside by the craft service table to inside the closet of the house in 7 seconds. I don't think they had scrapped Angelina as an accomplice by this point.
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Stratego — 9 years ago(September 05, 2016 06:01 PM)
Ah yeah. I haven't seen the movie in quite a while, so I wasn't sure about the amount of time he had. Although I'm sure the back of the closet is open, that just seems way too quick. It's kind of like Ghostface entering the sorority house while still on the phone to Cici in Scream 2. It couldn't have been just one killer.