The Voice Changer Issue
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InTheHub — 9 years ago(November 05, 2016 01:27 AM)
Well, Randy assumed he was safe in broad daylight, and he was keeping the killer talking to "distract" him. No one else would really engage and it would put then on instant guard.
It's still intact though, I love that the voice is heavily presnt in the finale(at the pool and in the screening room).
The voice all but vanishes from the second half of the first two films.
They had no problem having the characters act illogically otherwise
They do stupid illogical things like this in all the movies, as I'm sure you are aware.
Like Cotting stalking the empty film school, Sidney running all the way back into the theatre, and Sidney going on stage surrounded by people in masks with knives when she is a murder target.
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Stratego — 9 years ago(November 05, 2016 05:53 AM)
Well, Randy assumed he was safe in broad daylight, and he was keeping the killer talking to "distract" him. No one else would really engage and it would put then on instant guard.
But it did give the Ghostface voice some screentime.
It's still intact though, I love that the voice is heavily presnt in the finale(at the pool and in the screening room).
The voice all but vanishes from the second half of the first two films.
But in this movie, the Ghostface voice is pretty much absent until the finale. Great if you think that's enough, but that's still no reason to use a gimmick based on sci-fi technology for the rest of the movie. Like I said, a recorded and edited voice of Cotton, for example, would also have done the trick.
They do stupid illogical things like this in all the movies, as I'm sure you are aware.
Like Cotton stalking the empty film school, Sidney running all the way back into the theatre, and Sidney going on stage surrounded by people in masks with knives when she is a murder target.
I already pointed out that characters act illogically throughout the series. But since this movie has no problem having them act extremely illogical, what's the problem of having them converse with the Ghostface voice? -
InTheHub — 9 years ago(November 07, 2016 03:36 AM)
Jesus Stratego, did this film ruin your prom night or something???
Were you going through a really bad time in your life when it came out?
The Hate is truly a marvel.
what's the problem of having them converse with the Ghostface voice?
They
Do
. But instead of just repeating what we got in the first two movies, they tried to mix it up a bit. Give the audience a new trick.
Again, if this was an idea of Kevin Williamsons, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. It would probably be hailed as "genius update"
And again, I'll quote Ehrhen Krueger, "All of the ideas in Scream 3 are Kevin Williamsons and Wes Cravens."
The idea came from one of the two. And Williamson produced. They certainly gave their okay!
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Stratego — 9 years ago(November 07, 2016 04:05 AM)
Just when you seemed to be so reasonable
Jesus, Guy, did my opinion that the voice changer sucks ruin your life?! You seem to be obsessed with it.
But thanks for AGAIN making personal attacks just because I don't like this movie as much as you do. How sad must an individual be to do that?
Legitimate criticism does not equal "hate". The voice changer is one of the dumbest things about the movie. And all these years I've always been consistent with my criticisms.
They Do. But instead of just repeating what we got in the first two movies, they tried to mix it up a bit. Give the audience a new trick.
They hardly do. But if that's the case, why not use real-life technology, like I said?
Again, if this was an idea of Kevin Williamsons, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. It would probably be hailed as "genius update"
Always so fncking paranoid. Not that I have to explain myself, but you're wrong. Stu being alive in the third movie was supposedly Williamson's idea and that would've been incredibly stupid.
Ofcourse Krueger tries to cover his own azz by claiming none of it was his idea. But I don't care whose idea it was, Williamson, Craven, Krueger or even the Weinsteins, it was just stupid.
"Producer" is just a credit, they don't need to give their okay. I doubt the studio asked for it, seeing how things had turned sour between Williamson and the Weinsteins. -
InTheHub — 9 years ago(November 08, 2016 12:27 AM)
I'm being unreasonable????
GHOSTFACE HAS MORE DIALOGUE IN SCREAM 3 THAN SCREAM 2!!!!
Count the friggin lines!!! You're bitching how you "missed the voice" in the movie where he actually gets more dialogue, even competeing with the voicechanger gimmick!
And I'm being unreasonable???
It's like 2 minutes of words in Scream 2, like 3 minutes in Scream 3.
And when did Craven, or Williamson or anybody on the film ever say the voicechanger was a bad idea? Never.
Yeesh.
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Stratego — 9 years ago(November 08, 2016 02:15 AM)
Yes, you're being unreasonable. Look how hysterical you're being. Look at the personal attacks you've made. And all over a stupid voicechanger I don't like.
The Ghostface voice was hardly used in the rest of the movie and hardly in the same way as the other two movies with him taunting his victims over the phone. Only a short bit of the conversation with Cotton was like that. And even an unmasked Billy and Stu using the voice changer was more creepy than what Roman did in the finale. And like I said, that's not the only problem.
I don't care if no one involved in the movie said it was a bad idea. I do think it was a bad idea. You better learn to deal with it. -
InTheHub — 9 years ago(November 08, 2016 06:42 PM)
YOU CAN think it was a stupid idea.
But you can't tell me "Scream 3 hardly used the ghostface voice" when he actually has more dialogue than in the second film. Because
that
doesn't make sense.
And personally, I think he sounds creepier in the 3rd film and has way more memorable dialogue. I'll take the call to Sidney in the police station over anything from Scream 2.
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Stratego — 9 years ago(November 08, 2016 06:56 PM)
I have no idea if he has more lines, I've never bothered counting them. But what I said is that it was hardly used in the rest of the movie. Most of Ghostface voice's dialogue is in the finale when Roman gives his exposition. It's not over the phone taunting his victims. It doesn't have the same effect.
But thanks for giving me permission to think it was a bad idea. Although I'm not sure what Scream 2 has to do with it. -
InTheHub — 9 years ago(November 12, 2016 12:16 AM)
But thanks for giving me permission to think it was a bad idea.
Just clarifying.
It doesn't have the same effect.
I think it was very effective. Roger Jackson really delivered some questionable lines and made them effective.
What does Scream 2 have to do with it?
I'm sorry? Weren't you singling out scream 3 from the rest of the series, of which Scream 2 is a part of??? For hardly using the ghostface voice when it used it more than Scream 2, which is the film you should have been directing that criticism at technically.
Oh but wait, now it's not the quantity but "how" they used the voice that bothers you.
You know Stratego, I saw a terrible film a few months back IT FOLLOWS.
I could tell you a vague description, but that's about it because it was awful and I don't care to remember it. Like most films I hate.
It's funny how well you know Scream 3, for a film you deem so unworthy, you've undeniably seen it multiple times, and I'd bet my bottom dollar you have a copy of it in your house.
So the only further question on this subject is why have you watched a film you get nothing from multiple times?
Your call.
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Stratego — 9 years ago(November 12, 2016 05:08 AM)
I was comparing the voice changer with the voice changer in BOTH previous movies to explain why it feels off. "Anything in Scream 2" has nothing to do with it.
I never said it was quantity. I said there was a lack of Ghostface voice taunting his victims over the phone and that it was spread out unevenly.
There are plenty of movies I hate or don't care for and I never think about them again. But those movies aren't part of a movie franchise of which I happen to love the first two movies.
Don't be such a drama queen. I never said I hate the movie or that it's a terribly awful film. I find it a very disappointing film, but otherwise just don't care for it. I simply visit this board to talk Scream.
Before I regularly visited this board, I'd only seen it about two times. Since then I've checked it out a couple of times on tv to refresh my memory so I can discuss it. I don't think I've seen it more than five times. Looking up the transcript can also help.
No, I don't owe a copy. You'd have to pay me some good money to add it to my collection. Paying for it once to see it in the theater was enough.
I certainly didn't owe you an explanation, but I do hope it helps you to move on and accept a different opinion about this movie. -
InTheHub — 9 years ago(November 12, 2016 11:55 PM)
Ditto.
And for the record, the only drama queen is you. "Paying for it in the theatre once was enough".
What-EVER! Nobody buys your indignity here, least of all me.
I don't believe you for a second, I think you have seen it multiple times and would bet my first born you own it.
I love the Halloween franchise, but I hated part 3 and you won't find me on that film's message board ever.
Makes sense.
And yes you clearly hate the film, I've never seen you pass up a single opportunity to remind the world how much it disappointed you.
On any of the films boards.
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Stratego — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 06:37 AM)
You can't take a joke, huh? You're the drama queen because you keep harrassing me and calling me names because I don't like the movie.
Who doesn't buy my "indignity"? You're the only one complaining!
Get ready to prepare those adoption papers because I do not own Scream 3 in any shape or form. And I actually said I've seen the movie multiple times, just not that many.
Too many horrible Halloween sequels to even bother visiting those boards. But if you were just as disappointed with Halloween 3 as I was with Scream 3 (can't understand why, because it was clear it had nothing to do with the previous movies), then go ahead and express that disappointment on the board.
But I made these comments a year ago. If you keep commenting on them, ofcourse I keep coming back to the board!
When was the last time I even brought up Scream 3 on the other boards? It must've been when I told you it was unnecessary to bring up Scream 3 every time -
rustywriter-292-501345 — 9 years ago(January 22, 2017 07:16 AM)
Who says the voice changing technology doesn't exist? I believe it does! It simply digital manipulation. Each voice has a unique digital pattern. Simply takes samples of a voice, then the software creates an algorithm for conversion.
For instance: http://www.nchsoftware.com/voicechanger/index.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiAzZHEBRD0ivi9_pDzgYMBEiQAtvxt-HlJhbx4PJ_ti-5ptbY1WgccoaMb05GqvO2LXdqgKNUaAr8c8P8HAQ