i hate this film
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Alison17 — 11 years ago(February 25, 2015 09:43 PM)
My black sense of humor should be scoured with steel wool so as not to offend your delicate sensibility? Are you the taste police? Laughter is the best medicine and you could use a big dose to shake all those judgemental thoughts from your brain.
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TaRaNRoD — 5 years ago(November 22, 2020 08:55 AM)
Thank you. The worst part with all these people who get so hostile with others because they like a movie they judge unacceptable, is that they don't see the irony of their pompous and exaggerated reactions.
So, a person is sick because he/she likes some kind of movies which depict taboo subjects such as violence and sex in a more extreme way then the mainstream media show them. However, when they tell things like " someone should be scoured with steel wool", they basically wish death on people for liking a movie (I've also seen some users saying it straight forward on others gore movies' pages).
This is totally uncalled for, immature and narrow minded. Usually, I don't even like these movies, with a few exceptions (like Cannibal Holocaust, huge fan). However, people can enjoy whatever they want, as long as they harm no one.
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berts1404 — 19 years ago(December 11, 2006 01:56 PM)
Frankly, I find all the beep about child abuse (Dad whacking off to a boys life magazine) to be too disgusting.
Before seeing this film, I always wondered if someone would have the balls to tackle the subject in such a no bulls**t manner. I found it refreshing to see such controversial subject matter in a film and applaude the director for showing peadophiles in a realistic light, instead of just as monsters, everything in life is always more complicated than that. There must be some who fight with their conscience like Frank did. At times he seemed disgusted with himself, but still couldn't stop what he was doing. The scene where he tells his son what he is essentially, was one of the most disturbing, yet powerful I've ever seen.
"Hey, faget! They're not gay. They're hobbitsClerks II
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liliap — 19 years ago(December 18, 2006 12:25 PM)
Hmmmm.
Interesting.
I haven't actually seen the film.
However, what is interesting is that the only reason I came across the description was because I typed 'happiness' into google to see what it had to say for itself - since 'happiness' is obviously the 'main quest' in people's lives - whatever that consists of - so therefore to discover that in a sense the film was about that quest but not actually being 'fulfilled' and then seeing people's responses to it - ranging from 'love to hate' is quite interesting in itself.
After all.
Some people say they 'loved it' because of the humour element.
Some people didn't like the 'humour' and therefore they hated it.
In the freudian sense - humour is about 'laughing at taboos' therefore getting over the 'problems' and 'depression' that is normally associated with 'wrong things' or 'taboos', so that some sort of external viewing process can be enabled so that some form of evolution or healing can take place.
However - sometimes humour in itself can be 'taboo' i.e. when it is inappropriate or insensitive or at the expense of others, rather than 'with' that person or 'subject'.
It's all a question of degrees and how much people identify with different sides of the 'argument' or topic in discussion.
It all boils down to whether or not the 'humour' is 'enlightening' or whether it is in the best interests of everyone or whether it is at someone's expense.
Having a sense of humour about oneself helps primarily - but sometimes we look for more sensitivity in life - and to have too much of a sense of humour about ourself can also sometimes be about self-humiliation.
If this film has no 'answers' to the quest for 'happiness' one could say 'what is the point' in watching it, if it has no 'meaningful purpose' behind it. Maybe the point is that there are 'conventional plans for happiness' that we are programmed with when we are born, and then we discover that things don't quite work out like that - so therefore to be more enlightened in order to see the 'happiness' ie 'humour' even in the failures and the tragedy etc. but also not to wallow in them; i.e. to view objectively and to use this to discover new alternative strategies to move on, is something positive in itself.
It reminds me once of a song that I once witnessed being performed in a live acoustic music club.
The 2 performers were astounding and professional standard, considering the ocassion, which was full of amateurs, and ranging from one extreme to the other of the musical spectrum.
The girl in the duo was beautiful and the guy played his guitar in a classical jazz flamenco fusion style that was exquisite.
The song was a melancholic description of a girl who had had many troubles of varying descriptions in her life. The song was poignant and meaningful in its depth.
But the more that the song continued, with each verse, the drama and turmoil just seemed to get to a point that there was so much going on - that it was too much. Then it just became ridiculous. Then everyone started laughing. Giggling first, then more and more, the performers then got annoyed, and it was like the audience were naughty children not appreciating the seriousness, no longer empathising with the tragedy of the song, and then the musicians got quite stroppy.
But in a sense, one could say that to laugh in the face of adversity is surely a prime necessity, to have an ironic sense of humour, and first and foremost to cultivate a sense of humour at oneself is the most important, but also to remember that if we are too serious noone will take us seriously, but also if we are not serious enough, then it goes the same way too. It's all a question of balance. But what about the poor girl and her tragic circumstances? Did anyone take her seriously and work out a sustainable management strategy to work out how to alleviate her suffering and woes? What does it say about the audience that they didn't care any more about her suffering?
The same in this film. If you empathise with the characters too much, maybe it is depressing. If you don't empathise with them, and it is all too much, and therefore you view it as an over-stated 'ironic' black comedy then it is humourous.
But does the film offer any solutions or potential for enlightenment in the quest for actual 'happiness' in relationships - or does it just consider the break down of relationships as purely fodder for entertainment. Is it childish or is there method in the madness? Is there faith and hope and a glimmering of light at the end of the tunnel? -
TheChoccyStarfish — 16 years ago(February 12, 2010 05:50 AM)
tl;dr
Revelation Below!!!!:
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mjktig2 — 17 years ago(February 27, 2009 02:05 PM)
This post is a perfect example of where we are going as nation and as a people. We want to understand everyone even the sick twisted pedophile and rapist. What do you mean a "realistic light"? They are monsters and that is the reality. They have shown the world that they cannot exist among the rest of us and they need to be eliminated. Everyone has a chance to be good and do the right thing but those who are like the character in this film should not be allowed to live among the civilized. You act as though the character is coming out as a homosexual by telling his son what he is. What he is is a piece of garbage and nothing else. He has thrown his humanity away and should not be considered human. Anyone who can identify with murderers, rapists, pedophiles, etc. is as morally barren as those who commit these crimes.
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marinquiet — 15 years ago(April 22, 2010 09:24 PM)
Anyone who would consider of putting anyone outside the human race shouldn't be considered a human, more of a monster for not having a soul. Stop thinking about your pathetic views of the world, you don't know jack!
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seaninboise — 15 years ago(June 14, 2010 11:36 AM)
Muslims want to blow up everyone not Muslim.
They want to blow us up more-so because we have such a strong military presence in the middle east. Keep your irrational opinions to yourself.
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ManFromSanFernando — 15 years ago(June 14, 2010 04:21 PM)
Epitome of dumbed down liberal group-speak, if you're against something that liberals like, like a movie portraying gays having sex just to shock the audience, then you are a hidden gay(PS I have no problem with gay film,just using an example).
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Barbecue — 15 years ago(June 27, 2010 09:17 PM)
Typical pig-ignorant conservative nonsense: "All muslims are terrorists, anyone who disagrees with me is a sick pervert, only conservatives are good, liberals are all evil scum, blah blah blah blah. Could you be any more pathetically tedious and boring?
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kurtblirgrusom — 18 years ago(April 15, 2007 03:13 PM)
Yes, yes. You are a good christian and care about love and peace. It doesn't matter if things like child abuse, insanity or loneliness exists, because they don't REALLY exist in your world
This movie is educational and enlightening because it portrays characters in a completely different and interesting view; phedofiles CAN be human beings too.
It is entertaining because it tells tragic, touching stories.
If you can't handle the truth, don't bother to start a discussion. If you want to critizise ANY piece of art or ANY story, you have to be open minded and ignore things like "correct" morals and political or religious codes.
