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jpotter-9 — 19 years ago(July 16, 2006 09:59 PM)
One thing I think we should ALL remember, is generally gay movies are bad. Like REALLY bad Not all, but most They are so porly acted, and cheaply shot, and have story lines that would cause Aaron Spelling to toss his cookies So when a "pretty good" movie hits, it immediatly becomes a smash and people are happy to rate it a 10 in comparison to what else is out there
Plus, anything with Miss Coco just instantly becomes genius, because it has to be for them to realize her talent. God I love her.
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shacks24 — 19 years ago(August 27, 2006 01:34 PM)
quote:Tori Spelling goes off about how shes not a lesbian, doesn't want to move to new jersey, and needs cheese on her god damn fries!
The only thing that i miss in this scene is after she is saying damm fries blood cames out of her nose,that would make the scene more funnier
I am totally agree with you,that was the funniest moment in the movie
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shoeihell — 19 years ago(September 04, 2006 09:27 AM)
"i agree w the OP, this movie is junk. C.Campbell is cute but Pitoc is such a lousy actor (he was cast for his pecs obviously, but that's the same reason anyone in a gay movie ever gets cast) that the whole "Romantic" angle is ludicrous. the dialogue was cliched, the acting veered from over the top to nonexistant. tripe made for middle of the road gay audiences who are used to downgrading their standards for a shred of subpar humor and a peek of big beefy pecs."
Yeah, I pretty much said all that in another thread here and was thoroughly flamed. Seemed that many have lived this shallow, beefcake life and even lament the fact that gay themed movie have tended to veer away from this kind of acting in recent yrs. Probably the same people who dislike "Brokeback Mountain" and/or want to give gay movie direction back to the shallow, city club boy scene.
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schmidtkenn11 — 9 years ago(April 18, 2016 01:42 AM)
In my opinion, Pitoc is NOT "a lousy actor" in this; you are mistaking the character of Mark for bad acting by Pitoc. He is playing a GO-GO BOY by convention, if not definition, a mindless, emotionally retarded person. He wouldn't have a lot of depth or emotion in his facial features. That being said, there were some lovely moments where he allowed his feelings to surface briefly (i.e., the scene on the street with Perry, just before he takes Gabe's hand, his expressions when Gabe is trying to hold his hand in the scene in the diner, etc.). I think you missed a lot of the subtlety of his performance.
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shoeihell — 9 years ago(April 18, 2016 01:53 PM)
I didn't miss anything. Pitoc could have exhibited a lot more depth in his part.You're letting him hide behind your perceived "GO-GO BOY" persona. There where a lot of instances in the movie where he could have impressed, but didn't. Maybe we should review a list of his 'other' movies to prove our respective points. No "subtleties", just a C grade actor.
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schmidtkenn11 — 9 years ago(April 18, 2016 02:27 PM)
I get it; you didn't like him. You're entitled to your opinion. As am I. I just don't agree with it. Out of curiosity, are you a professional actor, or working in the Industry in some capacity? I have worked in TV and film for the last 6 years, and onstage (professionally) for the last 36 years. I have been a member of both Equity and SAG, respectively, during that time, and lived and worked in both New York and Los Angeles.
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shoeihell — 9 years ago(April 18, 2016 04:44 PM)
Well then, I guess your 'experience' overrides common sense and a lifetime of viewing movies and going to plays. Interesting you think were both entitled to an opinion but yours trumps mine? You've been in the biz long enough that you seem to lack much humility, among other thingssuch is the pity of tunnel vision. Do you even realize that this was first posted back in 2006?
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schmidtkenn11 — 9 years ago(April 19, 2016 01:17 AM)
Yes, I think it does, since that is what I do FOR A LIVING. I have not only been TRAINED as an actor (I have two degrees in it), but, as I said, have been doing it professionally for many years. Would you actually allow someone who has only WATCHED a surgeon perform brain surgery, but has no training in it, to operate on you? Would you give that AMATEUR the same credibility you would give to a PROFESSIONAL surgeon? There is a reason that I or J.P. Pitoc gets PAID to do it, as opposed to someone who sits in the audience and has to pay to view a movie or play that we are performing in.
And, in spite of all that, I did say that you were entitled to your opinion.
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silvertron — 9 years ago(May 16, 2016 09:18 AM)
Would you actually allow someone who has only WATCHED a surgeon perform brain surgery, but has no training in it, to operate on you?
I do believe training for actors is important for their craft, but this is is a ridiculous comparison. Jodie Foster won 2 Oscars, but never had formal training, so obviously it's possible to be a successful and popular actor without trainingthat can't be said for a brain surgeon.
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schmidtkenn11 — 9 years ago(May 16, 2016 01:44 PM)
It wasn't meant to be taken LITERALLY; I was just using a metaphor because he/she was being so ridiculous. Watching something is not the same as actually being able to DO it. People in the audience are entitled to their opinion, and relevant as it is, I believe that someone who is TRAINED to be an actor has a more valid opinion because of their training/experience.
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Ian_or_Satan — 19 years ago(September 09, 2006 06:17 PM)
I agree, probably wouldn't give it a 10, but I think 7 is fair. Here are a few reasons I liked it more than most gay movies out when this was released:
- Nobody had AIDS
- Nobody was raped
- There was no violence
- The guys weren't flaming
It was just a cute romantic movie.
Mmmmmm sacrilicious
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WarpedRecord — 19 years ago(December 28, 2006 03:33 PM)
To that, I would add:
5. Nobody committed suicide.
I thought this movie was a strong 7 or a weak 8, so I gave it the benefit of the doubt and gave it an 8. I normally don't like gay movies for the reasons listed above, plus the fact that the actors are usually pretty weak, but "Trick" was a pleasant surprise. Even Tori Spelling was tolerable, and that's saying a lot.
