The End Was totally unrealistic-SPOILERS
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Stir of Echoes
Pogo_76 — 13 years ago(March 17, 2013 09:53 AM)
I liked the movie so I'm not complaining but it did get pretty unrealistic at the end when they tried to murder Tom and Maggie. The death of the dead girl was more a freak accident so it doesn't make any sense because the two sons would probably get something like 10-15 years and be free after maybe 5-10 years(ok, I'm not a law expert). If they would kill the couple in cold blood, they would get several life sentences on top.
Since the murder attempt is done in such a sloppy way, there is no doubt that they would get caught. I'm not sure if that ending was even necessary. -
jdown-1 — 13 years ago(March 17, 2013 07:59 PM)
In real life, of course not. In a movie, definitely. It gave us what we expected for our $7 ticket - a tense, dramatic ending. Saving the life of Tom & Maggie, even if it meant killing Kurt & Harry, was expiation for Frank. He really did think theirs was a good, decent neighborhood. That's why the script called for him to say it earlier in the movie.
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donttalkaboutfightclub — 13 years ago(March 30, 2013 07:24 PM)
They aren't hardened criminals. All they think about is, if this guy calls the police, we go to prison, get assraped and our whole family is destroyed. they aren't thinking clearly. but yeah, the murder attempt was pretty bad.
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BitterAsHell — 12 years ago(April 13, 2013 10:18 AM)
Keep in mind that they(or at least one of them) was trying to rape the girl when they killed her, and that they had been forcibly confinding her in the house. So, if the cops found out about that, they could get sentenced for a bit more than just the killing.
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AndreiMH — 12 years ago(April 22, 2013 08:55 PM)
That's just you analyzing the situation from an outside point of view. But in real life people don't usually think that rationally or calculate what's the benefit of doing this vs. that. They just act on instinct/panic and do what they think is necessary to save their butt.
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Totemkauf — 10 years ago(December 10, 2015 08:59 AM)
I wonder if they weren't stopped , what would have happened next.
Ok , we're going to have to dispose of three new bodies plus Samantha's corpse in the basement. We're going to have to deal with cops asking why this couple tore up the house, and then disappeared.
Cops "So why'd there tear up the place and leave?"
Dad "Oh well you see, I had like a million dollars hidden in the basement and they were renteres, so they must have heard about the money somehow and after they found it they left, cause you know they knew it was my money so they'd get in trouble for stealing it. yeah.
Cops "ahuh. What about that guy down the street?"
Dad " Oh well his kid just shot himself ya know, it must have been so hard on him he just left"
Cops " Without taking his car eh?"
Dad (Throwing a bottle to his son) "Drink up"..
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preachcaleb — 10 years ago(January 05, 2016 08:30 AM)
The death of the dead girl was more a freak accident
She died during the committing of a felony (attempted rape), which is considered a capital offense. They could get a life sentence either way.
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bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(July 28, 2021 02:36 PM)
usually if they are close to 17 but almost never if they are white backed with rich parents.
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preachcaleb — 4 years ago(July 28, 2021 02:46 PM)
It's still been known to happen. Gotta take the circumstances of the crime into account. They not only killed a girl while trying to rape her, they then covered it up and disposed of the body.
It's certainly not as impossible as seeing visions of ghosts.
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bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(July 31, 2021 12:23 AM)
I dont know what world you live in but when you have rich white parents they just sweep it under the rug. Hire a super well connected lawyer and they'd make it seem like she just killed herself and they were really the victims.
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bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(August 02, 2021 02:52 PM)
They live in a rich area and they probably had connections plus it was a coalition of people not just one against some poor nerdy disabled girl. I can take out a list of rich mfs that've gotten away with it. Bill Cosby for starters.
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preachcaleb — 4 years ago(August 02, 2021 04:16 PM)
Hardly a rich area. A well to do area, but not all that rich. And there weren't any legal connections established for the characters. The fact that it was so many against one disabled girl would just add even more evidence against them.
I can also make out a list of rich people that didn't get away with it. Gary Glitter for starters.
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bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(August 02, 2021 05:50 PM)
Rich compared to the rest of the world. The fact that so many parties were involved went against one single girl nobody gave a **** about.
Legal perhaps not but in a small community there is always connections.
The rich that got away with against the poor the that didnt far out weights it.
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preachcaleb — 4 years ago(August 02, 2021 06:15 PM)
Still not that rich. It's just a working class neighborhood. Tom was a phone repairman. And he even stopped going to work, yet they could still afford to live there. It's not that expensive of a neighborhood. All those parities is why a judge would easily side with the disabled girl whose family did care about.
Fortunately, those connections won't matter to the legal system.
The rich that got away with against the poor the that didnt far out weights it.
That's not what this is about. The fact is, even the rich, which none of these characters were, do also get busted and go to prison.
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bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(August 02, 2021 06:21 PM)
working class doesnt mean they dont have tons of backups. Tom might've been on the lower side plus he had the support of his wife.
I'd like to meet that judge your talking about. They all side with the dollars.
connections is the legal system.
Once in awhile isnt a consistent statics. If you believe the justice system isnt tilted for the rich you're living in the twilight zone.
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preachcaleb — 4 years ago(August 02, 2021 06:39 PM)
Support is fine, but that's not the same as being rich enough to game the system. That's not a luxurious neighborhood.
No, all judges do not side with the dollars. That's why a lot of rich celebrities end up in prison, despite their money.
If you believe rich people don't get theirs too, then that's a different fantasy. As all the rich people in prison prove.
Plus, "once in a while" actually does constitute a consistent statistic. Blue moons are once in a while, but they're consistent. El Nino is once every four years, but that's consistent.
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bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(August 02, 2021 10:22 PM)
but the local counselor might not need millions to look the other way. He could have a family member or something connected as well.
you mean few. You need to get arrested more often to see how the rules are bended for the dollars.
Some rich people but again not only do they have the power to get off easy, they can always appeal, and reappeal and serve light sentences and serve in luxury hotels too. I think you should study law.
Consistently inconsistent.
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